Poll coming
If they can prove the university knew about it, then yes.
If not, the university should sue the booster for their upcoming lost revenue.
I said they should and will. That is based on my limited knowledge of the facts and the ever increasing number of scandals throughout college football.
Wow. Everyone else thinks they should get the death penalty? I voted no and no. The reason I don’t think they should, or will, get completely killed is because the only relevant precedent is SMU, who had their highest ranking university officials in on the cheating and ignored previous punishments.
As of now, I do not believe it has been proven that the U officials were in on this. It appears to be the work of a “rogue” booster. Let’s just say, for fun, that Randy Shannon and Larry Coker knew about it, too. They’re both gone. Al Golden hasn’t coached a game yet for the U.
I do believe Miami should get hammered. Hard. But the death penalty would be too much.
You can bring the hammer down on a program without screwing the school’s other athletic programs and the other members of that school’s athletic conference. SMU’s death penalty not only hurt other SMU athletic programs who had nothing to do with the Pony Excess, but it also effectively killed the SWC.
A more appropriate penalty would be to neuter the football team for a long period, by greatly reducing its scholarships and banning it from bowl play for 5 years. If you cut the number of scholarships from 85 to, say, 50, you would allow the team to function but would also greatly hamper its ability to compete.
Those penalties are not much more that a flimsy slap on the wrist compared to what USC got.
They should, but they won’t. As has already been said, SMU’s death penalty killed the Southwest Conference and destroyed them for a generation. A few years ago, a school administrator who was on the committee that handed down the death penalty to SMU said this:
Nothing has changed in that regard. If they hit Miami with that they’re done for a very long time. Not that I have any problem with that, but unlike SMU in 1987 Miami is a huge money-maker for the NCAA and they will not kill that cash cow out of principle because they don’t really have any.
Normally, yes, but if Miami is forced to drop football, that means there are only 11 ACC football-playing schools, and the NCAA bylaws say that you need 12 in order to conduct a conference championship that does not count against your regular-season limit.
Of course, they could always invite another school into the conference just for football (although they might have a hard time finding one that wouldn’t want to be included in basketball as well, if for no other reason than it would then share in the ACC’s rather lucrative cut of the NCAA basketball tournament money).
How so? USC lost 30 scholarships over a 3 year period (so 75, 75, 75, then back to 85) ,2-year bowl ban, and 4 years probation. My post advocated a loss of 35 scholarships per year for an undetermined amount of time, and a 5 year bowl ban.
I agree, what I meant to say was that you can levy a harsh punishment upon a school without causing those things you mentioned. That harsh punishment need not include the death penalty, which does cause the problems listed above.
There were basketball players and coaches involved too, whatever sanctions are handed out won’t likely be limited to the football program.
As a supporter of Oklahoma and the Big XII, (:rolleyes:) I am unsympathetic.
As a FSU alum, I am also not very sympathetic.
Also an FSU alum.
UM should get the death penalty, but they won’t. The NCAA will be worried that a group of 64 schools will get together in 4 super conferences and be independent of the NCAA.
Go 'Noles!
Yeah, no way they give the football program the death penalty. They might kill UM basketball.
Extremely harsh punishment, but not the death penalty.
That “U” has been thugs for 30 years. Burn it to the ground.
Obviously, the NCAA is more crooked than a box full of paperclips - it’s rotten all the way down. But what good are your own damn rules if you won’t enforce them? They should give Miami the death penalty, but they won’t. And I hope it contributes to their own downfall.
Clearly, the whole NCAA organization is broken.
Who cares, it’s not like it will stop college sports from being laughably corrupt.
on top of that, it does the ACC a disservice. the death penalty will screw with TV revenues, bowl game revenues, championship game revenues… and really impact a bunch of teams that had nothing to do with it.
scrapping their scholarships is the most the NCAA dares to inflict on any school in today’s environment. i can’t think of a scenario short of ritualistic sacrifice that would get a school booted.