Do you want to make a bet?
What, a bet that cannot be won or lost until 20 to 30 years from now?
Will this bet run side to your previous prediction that SA will implode into lawlessness after about 16 years of democratic rule?
You probably wouldn’t pay up anyway; you don’t seem to care about being dead wrong.
Obviously that woman was particularly sensitive about it. I can say that in a couple of months in the US I had several people say things like “You can’t be from Africa! You’re not black!”, so I can understand how she might have got to be touchy if she’d heard that sort of thing a lot.
I suspect your explanation might have annoyed her more, though. There are some South Africans who get annoyed when the accent is mistaken for Australian or New Zealand. (Similar to how some Canadians dislike being mistaken for American.)
Yes, that’s also a common sensitive point.
Err, you seem to be imagining things. I never made such a prediction.
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Did you read what I said? I was saying that if SA adopted the same land reform policies as Zimabwe it might also end badly.
End badly = Zimbabwe = lawlessness. No?
Yes, if they follow their land reforms. You get the distinction with simply saying they will right? I’m saying that is what would likely happen if they follow that path.
Then I shall amend my post:
"Will this bet run side to your previous prediction that SA will implode into lawlessness after engaging in lawful land reform?
You probably wouldn’t pay up anyway; you don’t seem to care about being dead wrong."
If you mean transferring ownership & the running of the farms from europeans to blacks, as happened in Zimabwe, then I would certainly take that bet. Based on the experience so far it hasn’t worked, but I’m happy to take your money
SA is engaging in lawful land reformations and has not descended into chaos. You have already lost. Where’s MY money.
Did you read the article above? It’s been a failure so far. My comment was that if it pursued the Zimabwe approach it would end badly and I stand by that. So far, it hasn’t shifted ownerhship on anything like that scale.
You call it a failure but somehow SA still hasn’t fallen like Zimbabwe. They still hold fair and free elections, their press is still free, political opponents are not arrested on phony charges, SA still holds the confidence of international lenders like the IMF and World Bank, they are not under any political/economical sanctions, their judicial system functions free and separately from the whims of the ANC (just ask Zuma).
Quite frankly this will never happen to SA; any land reform that they choose to engage in will be done in the interest of fairness and in respect to the rule of law. So where’s the cash you’re putting up?
I said the land reforms to date, according to the article, have been a failure.
Why would I edit someone else’s journalism?
South Africa is a mess. Maybe it’s a successful mess by your standards, but it’s a mess. It doesn’t mean that South Africa will always be this way, but you seem hellbent on being an apologist.
I thought that the current land reform was giving way to land redistribution? In America, we are used to affirmative action, but South Africa applies straight quotas.
What matters is that SA is a highly successful mess (1) by African standards and (2) by Apartheid-era standards.
Africans need to raise their standards.
[shrug] Druther live in SA than Israel.