Well, if you’re a self-righteous prude who thinks sex is shameful and sinful, you can transmit those values easily enough. It’s certainly done often enough.
Well it’s a good thing that I’m not. And here’s your jump to conclusions mat, Matt. :rolleyes: But more along the line as mentioned above, that the overwhelming way in which sex and relationships are portrayed in pornography aren’t realistic. But a lot of pre-teen and teen age kids don’t understand that.
That was a “you” in the generic sense. I have no, and am making no, comment about Omar Little specifically.
I acknowledge that my purpose would have been more clearly served had I said “If one is a self-righteous prude…”
All I know is that if I had seen tentacle porn when I was 12, I probably would have been absolutely disgusted, but I also would have been giggling like Beavis and Butthead.
Do you allow your son to go to the movies by himself with his friends, Bricker?
Pff, whatever. I saw all kinds of messed up stuff as a kid and look how I turned out.
Shit.
The real question is, why do you want normal kids? A weird sexual fetish gives a person character
No. Primarily because it hasn’t come up – his friends don’t go to the movies by themselves. None of them have any way of getting to a theater by themselves.
Really? I think when I was your son’s age, my friends and I used to go to the movies almost every weekend. How did we get there? Our parents would drop us off and pick us up. (There was a discount movie theater near us)
And before anyone says, “that was a different time”, it was only oh, about 25 years ago. Not that long ago. (You heard the same thing from naysayers, “It’s too dangerous, there are scary people out there, it’s a different age, etc”)
I agree. When I was that age, we’d ride our bicycles all over – even to the local movie theater.
But it’s not just me being overprotective – none of his friends do that stuff. None of them get dropped off to see movies alone.
Hey Bricker
Sorry I am late to the party.
Here’s my story. I am not an expert on kids, don’t have any of my own. I am 41 now.
I think people worry too much.
By third grade, me and my friends had accumulated a decent stash of mags. We were fascinated, and looked at them lots. Amazingly, most of these were found. I remember finding a big bag of papers someone had dumped on the side of the road, and mixed in were a handful of dirty magazines.
I had my own computer and modem by 3rd grade as well. My parents didn’t have any idea what was out there, and I spent lots of time on various BBSes. They did know that I could run up a pretty mean phone bill, which I would have to pay off. Long before 12, I spent lots of time unsupervised, and had downloaded plenty of filth, which was admittedly much lower res back then. Most of my friends came to see what I had found. When we found weird stuff (including a slideshow we got once called “down on the farm”) it was entirely for the point & laugh factor. I am pretty confident none of us found it arousing. Remember downloading porn at 300 or 1200 baud?
We fooled around a bit with some of the girls we knew (meaning, show & tell, etc, but nothing physically sexual).
I am fairly confident that my wife and the other women in my life would say I am a pretty normal guy who treats women as equals and with respect. I haven’t any fetishes, although I do have a few turn-ons (wouldn’t you like to know, perv), but I am sure they are all in the middle SDs of the bell curve.
You didn’t ask, but I actually think people vastly underestimate what a 12 year old can handle, whether its exposure to sexual content or independence. I learned how to treat women from my father, who would never tolerate anything less than gentlemanly behavior. I think that trumps the tentacle porn any day.
Sorry, no cites for my personal opinions.
Here are some relevant quotes I came across from “Be As You Are- The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi”. I know… just stick with me for a minute.
So, porn in general can feed this body identification, which on the deepest levels is a screwing-up. Still, it isn’t that porn or sex are poison, it is a question of whether or not these things distract a person from the real answers before they get a chance to really view them from a perspective of true innocence. And anyway, again, this kind of screwing-up can be overcome- your son could do far worse than that. Worry more about drugs and crime, don’t be jerk-dad and alienate or totally dominate him, and try to accept what you get, since you can’t really control it anyway.