Should parents tolerate children watching porn?

Almost all parents seem to think that their kids should not watch porn, and they should prevent them from watching, or least try to. As it is the case for 99.9% of male teenagers, it certainly didn’t stop me, and now that I’ve grown up, I sincerely don’t see anything bad watching porn since young age has done to me. I don’t plan on having children but if I had them, I wouldn’t really try to stop them as long as they watch it in a discreet manner at a moderate level. Certainly, proper sexual education is necessary, so that they don’t believe what they watch on porn is real. In fact you can’t really stop teenagers from watching porn - you just catch them on spot once in a while and humiliate them.

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Why the hell would you want to embarrass them?! Sex, and curiosity about sex is perfectly normal. If you embarrass them, then if they have a problem or question, they bloody well will not discuss it with you. I would rather have my kids feeling that they can trust me than to embarrass them about perfectly normal issues.

most of it may not be “harmful” to a person’s psyche but it is a misrepresentation of sex. In other words, men who learn about sex from watching porn are horrible lovers.

If I had kids, I would discourage it.

To me, it’s the equivalent of your child showing interest in a career of demolition for road construction, so you let him watch Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner to learn more about blasting.

Kids are curious about sex, but porn teaches nothing, and at that age they won’t be able to distinguish between what they see in the movie and how sex really is. That being said, if I caught my kid watching porn, I wouldn’t go ape shit, but I would have a talk with him about sexuality and how what he is watching is ridiculous and he is not to watch it again until he turns 18.

The conversation was about avoiding trick pay sites and malware, and that was that.

How does “girls’ porn” in the form of trashy romance novels and so on fit into this discussion? Print (non-photographic) erotica is generally a lot less closely monitored these days than the electronic-image kind, but it arguably provides just as unrealistic portrayals of sex and relationships.

If you wouldn’t let your kid watch Ivy League Hookers Gone Wild, would you let them read Lady Throbbingbust’s Passion or stuff of that ilk?

This memory is from over thirty years ago, but while in college, I moved into a neighborhood
close to school.
The hearsay and gossip on the block, was that a certain family allowed their young children to look at pornography, and watch pornographic movies.

The ages of the children were from eight to about eleven or twelve.
This family, under scrutiny, was trippy hippy, but educated and fairly well off financially.
Parents in this neighborhood were adverse to these porn watching kids playing with their own children; and understandably so, if one believed all the stories that were going around.

One of the problems I heard of, was that these children, maybe quite innocently,
acted out the things they were seeing in the pornography, when playing with other children.

I was not fully invested in what was going on, nor the outcome, because I was leaving at the end of the school year.
Also, I was not a parent at the time, so I was not completely sharing the larger group’s level of concern, and some were considering a call to the authorities.
I did notice these children seemed a bit off, and had dark shadows under their eyes, but I could not say for sure what was really going on with them, and only went by what others were saying.

My opinion now, is that shame about sex is most likely going to be a part of our upbringing, in this society, and it probably starts at a young age.
I have read that pedophiles often groom their child victims by first exposing them to pornographic images.
But also children may innocently come upon pornography, and share it with other children, like the typical situation of finding your father’s hidden stash.

In a perfect world shame and sex would not have to go hand in hand, but also in a perfect world, children would not be in danger of sexual predators.

It’s more like, if your teenager has an interest in road construction, you ban him from watching Wile E. Coyote cartoons so he doesn’t get the wrong idea about physics.

With teenage boys, sure, there’s some pseudo-educational component to looking at porn, but in large part they do it because they’re unbelievably horny and they want to get off.

12 year old kids - way too young.

17 year old kids - they should be smart enough to cover their tracks. If they were not interested at this age, I’d worry. I was.

Quoted because, well, this.

Recently, there was a guy who was hitting on me. He started asking me about certain acts, did I like this, did I like that? All of the acts he asked me about (and, presumably, expected me to be enthusiastic about) were things I’ve seen in porn that perhaps looked good on camera (from a guy’s perspective, especially an insecure guy who gets off on degrading/humiliating acts) and might even feel good to the guy, but there’s nothing about those acts that would be pleasurable for the recipient. I told him he watched too much porn, he thinks of women as subhuman, and if he was actually interested in me, as a human person with feelings, he’d be better off asking me open-ended questions and then paying attention to the answers. If you just want to try out all the gymnastic (high-risk) monkey sex you saw on your laptop last night, just go hire a hooker, because you obviously don’t care if there’s a real person there in the room with you and sex is obviously not about sharing pleasure with another actual live, breathing, sentient human.

That said, I have no moral qualms about porn, but I wouldn’t want kids who have no sexual experience at all to get ideas about what sex is supposed to be from porn. I’d rather they experiment on their own and then later, as adults, they can watch porn should they so choose. By the time you should be allowed to watch porn, you should already have an idea about what is realistically pleasurable and what just looks good on camera.

I’m ambivalent about porn in general. I was more enthusiastic about it until a few months ago, when I had a sort of conversion experience watching this (dw, more or less SFW). I thought back to Homage to Catalonia and how Orwell describes how much more effective a glimpse at freedom was at dismantling prostitution there than invective from the Church. A moment’s reflection and I realised that quite a bit of the content on sites I visited would qualify as demeaning: not something someone would volunteer for if their quality of living didn’t depend on it. Not something I wanted to contribute page hits to, after consideration.

While I don’t think pornography is bad qua itself, the conditions it is produced in are not conducive to depicting a loving relationship. That said, I don’t think techniques learned through pornography are necessarily demeaning or unpleasurable of themselves: cunnilingus was a positive example given in the other thread for instance.

Of course, because it’s not different strokes for different folks and no woman likes being fucked like a pornstar.

A lot of this depends on your definition of porn. It used to be Playboy magazines. Now it’s the stuff online, which is kind of horrifying to think of as someone’s introduction to sex, but they’re going to see it one way or another if it’s out there.

Touch a nerve there, Finny Wadd?

Ha! Wish I’d thought of that. I told my teenager, “I know you will see online porn sooner or later, whether you’re looking for it or not. I just want to warn you that using porn to learn about sex is like watching Spongebob to learn about marine biology.”

Nope, it’s just a very silly comment. There’s a large enough spectrum of sexual styles that pointing to a ‘pornstar’ vibe hardly means that there won’t be women out there who’re looking for exactly that.

But that doesn’t mean that a “pornstar vibe” is typical of real sex. C’mon, it’s hardly controversial to say that a lot of porn isn’t very realistic.

Guys whose expectations about sex are mostly derived from porn are likely going to have some adjusting to do to get used to situations with real-life partners.

  1. It doesn’t have to be typical, the claim made was that a ‘pornstar’ style was plain bad, not atypical.
  2. And yes, it’s not controversial, and I think that’s a sad thing since it’s such an absurd claim. No realistic? Of course it is. There’s a vagina, the penis goes inside. Pretty sure that’s how sex tends to work. And since there’s every type of porn from intimate, love-making erotic scenes to whips and chains BDSM, I’m also reasonably certain that “porn style” entails not just the entire gamut of human sexuality, but is still perfectly realistic in terms of its mechanical presentation.

Why, real-life partners have a different anatomy?

Pity the poor teenager who discovers—in the course of his new backseat explorations—that much to his surprise and chagrin, his brand-new girlfriend is not particularly eager to gag herself on his cock until she retches, or to have her mouth spit into, face slapped, windpipe squeezed to the edge of consciousness, or any of the other tender gestures young lovers are now expected to mimic.

Well, yeah, that’s one type of porn. A guy who spends his teen years watching reasonably tame missionary followed by wild and daring doggy is hardly going to be terribly out of place when he actually gets a girlfriend. Then again, a guy might very well find a woman who is into all that D/S stuff, but meh.