Me not know if typo or Hulk-Speak, but me approve.
Speaking of dicks.
My BIL pointed out that future generations will think that Infiniti War and Endgame were inspired by the COVID19 pandemic.
IIRC, Star Wars was considered pretty passe by the late 1980’s. It was the early to mid-1990s which brought it back in the public mind, specifically the Thrawn Trilogy.
(Which I insist is 7084 times better than the drivel that is the Sequel Trilogy).
Those were indeed dark times for us Star Wars nuts. I remember being picked on by classmates because I still played with my SW figures instead of the hot new toy. Wonder what they would say if they knew I still have them?
The Dark Fleet trilogy was a true game changer. Suddenly there was more books then you could count. Games got put out, the ridiculous (but awesome) POWER OF THE FORCE toy line was released. Then came word that George was thinking about new movies…
And of course, some Bond movies are much more loved than others, from all Bonds. Goldfinger, Casino Royale, and The Spy Who Loved Me will always be well regarded; Moonraker was being laughed at the day it was released.
Not all MCU films are going to be remembered the same way (and of course, unlike Bond movies, they don’t all share the same main character and some share no characters at all) and some movies are Marvel character movies but not considered “MCU” films. Iron Man, Thor Ragnarok and (if it counts) Into The Spider-Verse are just terrific movies and will always be well regarded.
I think it’ll mostly hold up with probable exceptions of the filler movies and the ones that weren’t well received when they were released.
I guess Winter Soldier is the most political of them and perhaps won’t age as well because of it? IMO it’s also one of the best so I think it’ll be fine.
Affects aside - I think the MCU films will hold because individually, they are all genuninely good stories/movies. The cheesiness of the Superman films is gone - there’s genuine ‘grey areas’ and stories.
to future audiences that can binge it all in 2 weeks time - the build up between is what will be missing - and especially the build up to what was endgame - that kind of magic is hard to repeat.
Captain America: The First Avenger seems pretty Christopher-Reeve-tastic.
It’s not about a specific political event. It’s about things that will be relevant as long as governments exist.
Just how well known in the general public do you think the “Thrawn Trilogy” is? Would even one person in a hundred know it?
First of all, I really don’t buy that people thought Star Wars was passe at any point, but if they did, what brought it back was “The Phantom Menace.” It was an atrocious movie, but the hype was unreal. Of course, that again makes one wonder just how passe Star Wars was. When they started rolling out the marketing for the new movie people lost their minds.
“Superman” is a fantastic movie. Having “Grey areas” and tortured heroes is itself a cliche that might seemed dated in the future.
Superman isn’t supposed to have “grey areas.” The whole point of him is that he’s an ideal person in a world that can’t live up to his standard. There exists an element of his being alienated - literally - from his surroundings, but it can’t be overdone. “Superman” absolutely nailed it. The sequels weren’t well written, and the recent Superman movies largely missed the point entirely.
Agreed. Kamala Harris’ SC campaign manager asked me last fall which I liked better - Batman or Superman (he was trying to connect with me). I told him Superman. When he asked me why I said, “Batman believes in collateral damage. To Superman the only accept number of people to rescue is everyone.”
That’s the sort of inspiration Superman provides to people in the DC Universe and something Zack Snyder completely misunderstands. Superman’s role isn’t the strength or the ubermenschness. It’s about living to his standards and inspiring others to do so as well, even if they fail.
It’s a role Captain America fills to a certain extent. He’s the guy who is going to do the right - as he sees the right - no matter what. That sort of character is the sort that can form a movie universe. Tony was the main POV character, yes, and arguably the one with the most character development. But the heart and soul of the first round of MCU movies is Steve Rogers.
I think part of what keeps the MCU so strong is that it doesn’t take either extreme. Yeah, they have dark and broody characters like Black Widow. They have total jerks who nonetheless do more good than harm, like Dr. Strange and Iron Man. But they also have hopeful idealists like Captain America and Black Panther. The mistake that the DC movies made was that they saw that their biggest successes were from Batman, who’s dark and broody, and decided that that meant that they needed to make all of their characters dark and broody. But what works for Batman isn’t what works for Superman. Marvel recognizes that.
I’d argue it was the Special Edition release, which got the original 3 back in theatres 2 years before TPM.
…which was done as part of the lead-up to TPM.
It’s The Rocketeer, just made by a [/the same] director with more experience, and being able to benefit from a bit of world-building already in place. Joss Whedon has a bit of a hard time using the character in conjunction with others, and then after the somewhat iffy start in Ultron, the Russos were then able to take him to new heights. They honed in on aspects of the character than were always there and made him into, essentially, a co-protagonist who is basically Tony Stark’s equal and opposite.
I emphatically do not agree.
Hulk just pawn in Hollywood game of casting.
I disagree with your assessment of Batman. I’ve always felt his story was that he saw his parents killed at an impressionable age and dedicated the rest of his life to trying to stop anyone else from dying.
I’ve always felt that Superman works best as a metaphor for the United States. Or at least the idealized image of the United States that existed in 1938. Superman had overwhelming power but it was okay because he always used it in the right way.
Truth, Justice, and the American way, much more than a metaphor.
That’s still the subtext. There’s a whole subset of evil Superman stories, and they all start with his ship landing outside the US.