And lose the main election, you are really bad at getting points uh?
Again, the division is there, and it does not help in the end. That is the reality of the Republican party of today.
You are predicting that kasich can’t win the nomination, aren’t you? If so, you’re wrong.
Even Christie could have won it, before all the stuff.
Good grief! Will you stop? The only way Kasich can win the election is to move to the hard right (yes, even on climate change). If he does that, he faces an extreme uphill climb to try to win the general. That’s what we’ve been saying all along.
The problem on climate change (or any other nuanced issue) is this:
Kasich opponent: “Kasich is a climate changer!”
What Kasich says: “While it’s true that I believe in climate change, I don’t think we should institute carbon taxes or cap-and-trade…”
What TPers hear: “I believe in climate change, BLAH BLAH BLAH.”
Mitt Romney won because the conservative vote was split among about ten different candidates. If the tea party were to coalesce behind a single candidate like Cruz instead of doing the crazy carousel like the last time they would Cruz (heh) to victory.
Every time that started to happen last time, the nutball vote coalescing on a particular candidate, that person started to get attention from the public and the media as s/he should have - and that exposed that person as a nutball too. The clown-car act was the result of having too many nutball candidates, not a cause of it. The last remaining alternative to the allegedly-electable Romney was Santorum, remember? As nutballish as the rest, just the last one standing.
So how do you get a candidate nutball enough for the nutballs, but who doesn’t look nutballish to the normals? Got any names?
John kasich. He’s pretty hard right, actually, he’s just got some heterodox views. In Congress he was consistently one of the most conservative members.
It’s a lot harder for governors to be pure, having to actually govern and stuff.
Whew, sure a lucky thing Presidents don’t have that to deal with.
My point is that Kasich is the most right-wing plausible Presidential candidate in the mix. Ted Cruz will not be President, and since he’s never governed there’s no guarantee he’d remain right-wing once in office either.
We know how a Kasich, Christie, Walker, or Jindal would govern because they’ve done it. And even right-wing hero Walker has his heterodox views.
It doesn’t matter how “hard right” a candidate was in the past, or really in actual reality. The second they take one single position not completely in line with the Tea Party they become a RINO.
Again, wishful thinking. I agree there’s too much demand for orthodoxy within the party, but a Presidential electorate, even in the primaries, is too big for orthodoxy to be enforced. We haven’t nominated a candidate to the right of Reagan since he left office and it’s not likely to happen in 2016 either.
But you will force moderates to mouth extremeist talking points to get nominated, which Democrats will use as a fine cudgel to beat them about the head (47%, anyone?)
I for one say work your butt off getting Kasich the nomination. Knock yourself out.
Come time for the election he will have a very good chance of attaining a Romney-like level of success.
That’s a myth – Reagan was far less conservative than Romney (at least in his latest guise), and on many issues less conservative than W. The party has moved to the right – in today’s GOP, Reagan would be a ‘liberal’ Republican.
Hell, Reagan RAISED TAXES, which would be cause for a Tea Party mutiny on the Ellipse today if a Republican president did it.
And we’re through the looking glass. I really am impressed at how doggedly you stick to your counter-factual history.
You are wrong even when pointing out others wrong. 
Read it again that was part of an AND/OR proposition. I even mentioned that only by going to the extreme right (and dumping his mild position on human made climate change) is how he might get the nomination, my point continues that if that is the case then the presidential election will be lost thanks to the dumping of the environment and many other items that are appreciated even by moderate republicans and independents.
Wishful thinking? ask Rubio what happens when a tea party darling tries to step out of line.
Sure, but natural gas gonna fix all that! Small problems, sure, earthquakes, tap water that burns, but it is all part of the wave of the future!
Investment opportunities! Private prisons, security for gated communities, and bottled water. Bottled in Canada, they give it to us and we don’t raise their rent.
He voted for the Federal Assault Weapons Ban in 1994; will the TP wing forgive that?
Depends. Are we talking about the People’s Tea Party Front for the Liberation of America? Or the other one?
Some time back, had myself a good chuckle over the Tea Party Express, how it announced that the Tea Party was solidly behind Verizon/Comcast, because everybody loves the cable company. Got themselves a big ol’ bus, Dick Armey, renting out huge hotels for massive gatherings, then smaller hotels for big gatherings, and finally the banquet room at the Holiday Inn out on Highway 9. Took about two weeks.
People started to get idea that the Tea Party Express was just a giant sucking hole for rich assholes to pour their money into.Dead as a doornail. Website advertising no meetings, no agenda, no gatherings of any sort.
Then, looky here! The Official Approved Tea Party response to the State of the Union Address. Look at the picture…
Well, guess I was wrong, the Tea Party Express is the official genuine Tea Party, accept no substitutes! Either that, or Mike Lee is an idjit and the Tea Party Express is a giant hole…