Well? If the Pubs wouldn’t pass that even when one of their own proposed it . . .
That’s the point, they are already giving up those votes as lost because it is easier than changing their tune.
Bush had just won after getting 44% of the Hispanic vote, this time they lost with only 27%. I think McCain clocked in at 35%? Anyways, the trend is crystal clear and any Republican with national, or hell even statewide aspirations sees it. House Republicans on the other hand know quite well going along means getting primaried by a TeaTard, so it is basically up to Boehner and how willing he is to break the Hastert rule.
Bah. Hispanic voters don’t care about immigration. Only the ones who aren’t currently voters care about the issue. Those who came here legally or were born here care about the same things other voters do: jobs and the economy. Those who didn’t care about immigration. Which is precisely why Republicans shouldn’t make voters out of them.
I was going to respond to this but I can’t seem to phrase it in a way that’s consonant with the Elections forum…
As a Hispanic that is a citizen now, I should tell you to stop spewing ignorant points.
It’s not ignorant, I’m making an argument from a poll YOU posted in another thread showing that Hispanics prioritize immigration extremely low.
Why would you care about immigration anyway?
Where in the world do you get this stuff?
My wife, who’s Hispanic, and a naturalized American citizen cares about immigration, as do I, and I was born here. And we both vote.
Does it bother you even one iota that you’re so wrong about so much?
Gets my vote for most astounding post in this thread.
More proof that the answer to the OP is a resounding NO.
Because I have a heart and compassion, and realize that people WANT TO COME HERE AND WORK and actually ARE doing so even with the draconian way that our current immigration law treats people coming from the south of our borders.
adaher, I’m going to say something that you probably think is a compliment. You are the absolute, distilled, shining essence of your parties beliefs and policies, condensed down into a single human being and polished all shiny-like. Let me assure you, however, that even though that sentence probably will pass inspection on this forum’s rules, it is NOT a compliment.
I can’t wait to hear why you think your party is doing progressively worse with hispanics every election. My guess is because Democrats lie to them and tell them Republicans are meany racists?
:rolleyes:
Even if it is low in priority does not mean it is not important to us, but thank you for showing all how out of it you really are.
Not only is it not a priority, but Hispanic voters favor enforcement first, as do black voters and white voters.
So, given that, why wouldn’t all politicians favor enforcement first?
And even if it is low priority they are still not going to vote for a party that hates them.
Show me a single poll showing immigration rating high on the list of issues Hispanic voters care about.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Because my wife has family and other acquaintances who have been trying to legally emigrate for YEARS, but have been dealing with roadblocks uniquely reserved for Hispanics even more onerous than the ridiculous process she went through to become a citizen, which also took years, and was mitigated only by the acquisition of her student visa and green card, and even that process was a nightmare.
Do you actually believe Latin Americans, simply because they’re already in the US, shouldn’t care about potential opportunities for their families and other of their countrymen?
True. However, the immigration bill does not even begin to address that problem. All it actually would do is anger GOP supporters while gaining no new pro-immigration supporters. Although it might get them a little more corporate money.
Everyone favors fixing the immigration system. The immigration bill doesn’t do that. IT’s not designed to. It’s designed to legalize millions of illegal immigrants. If it does anything else, that’s just a bonus as far as its supporters go.
In fact, the bill further breaks the system.
The GOP is ACTUALLY going to fix the immigration system in the House. Those who want to come here legally will have a much easier time of it. Those who came here illegally, tough cookies. But you wouldn’t worry about that, since you come from a law abiding family.
This entire thread is full of suggestions that Republicans do unpopular things to win elections. It’s nonsense. 66% favor enforcement first, and there is little ethnic divide on the issue.
Who exactly are Republicans supposed to represent? The people? Because every piece of advice given on this thread urges Republicans to ignore the people. Which was the Democratic strategy in 2009 and 2010 and we saw how that went.
What the immigration bill would accomplish is that next election your primary candidates won’t be trying to out conservative each other on the immigration issue by saying progressively more stupid things and you won’t end up with a self deportation candidate. Not having to talk about how mean they are going to be to the brown people by itself will bump you up several points, and that is really all you need. Enforcement first is bullshit, enforcement first means legalization never or enforcement never depending on who decides when the border is “secure”. It’s just a meaningless talking point.
Is there a non-Rasmussen cite for this? Rasmussen was notably inacurrate in the last two elections (2010 and 2012). Not sure I’d trust any data from them. In the last presidential election they were actually more inaccurate than Fox News live phone polls.