Will The Republicans ever figure out why they lost?

I wouldn’t say the DLC is gone, the party has instead internalized it. That’s why today’s Democratic party is centrist. There’s no need for a DLC anymore.

The center moves around. The DLC fell apart because it became basically toxic within the Democratic Party, despite its success from both a policy and electoral perspective.

basically for a short time the Blue Dogs ran the party, now they don’t anymore.

When was that? I must have missed it.

No, now, don’t get them mixed up. Blue Dogs != DLC.

The Republicans were the first runners-up and the Democrats came in next to last.:rolleyes:

No. McCain lost mainly because W had screwed up, but Romney lost mainly because Obama had not.

Romney lost because Obama ran an intensively negative and personal campaign, with media assistance.

I’d also note that twice Obama got bailed out by a change in subject just as the Republican was finally starting to lead in the polls.

Yeah, those damned changes of subject will kill you every time.

You mean the times they revealed his stupid remarks?

No, the financial crisis and Sandy.

The financial crisis dates back to 2008.

And Romney was never leading, even at his highest peak after the first debate he was behind in the polls in enough states to lose.

In the 2008 campaign, the sudden collapse of well, everything, undid all of McCain’s work to overcome his Bush baggage. McCain experienced a genuine bounce after the GOP convention and took the lead.

Sort of. However, it is historically very unlikely that someone could win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote. Plus since states are polled less frequently than the nation, which is polled every day several times, they lag. Minus Sandy, Romney maybe wins the popular vote. Which probably means he wins the electoral vote, but even if he doesn’t, we at least don’t have this thread.:slight_smile:

And then Bible Spice opened her mouth and everything went kablooey. And THEN Wall Street went kablooey, intensifying the Palin kablooey. There were multiple points of fail in 2008 for the GOP.

Then God really must hate you guys.

And even then, McCain reacted to the financial crisis like a chicken with its head cut off. I’m surprised there wasn’t more mention of the Keating Five scandal in the wake of the 2008 crisis.

If you mean the 2008 one, then, no, that was not an irrelevant, distracting change in subject that fortuitously swung the election towards Obama.

That’s because McCain was innocent. There were three guilty members of the Keating scandal, and they were all Democrats. Since politics often comes into Congressional investigations, they added McCain’s name to the investigation so it would seem bipartisan. They also added John Glenn, so that the adding of McCain wouldn’t seem political, since McCain and Glenn were about equally innocent.

In the end, three Democrats were implicated, the only three that should have been from the start.

He still behaved like a chicken with its head cut off…

http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2008157607_mckeating04.html