Will the right stop trying to stop trying to compare their crazies to the left's mild overreactions?

[MaxTheVool]

@furt

It’s not “spin,” it’s my opinion. I think fictionally depicting the death of a sitting president, any sitting president, is in poor taste (come to think of it, I’d probably say the same for depicting the death of any public figure).

It may well be that there is considerable overlap with what you call “shockingly outre” and I call “in poor taste.” Again, that’s not spin, that’s a difference of opinion.

OK, fine, what if the thread title were “will the right stop trying to compare their crazies to the left’s poor taste”?

My point being, poor taste in filmmaking is in no way comparable to the kind of craziness that exists on the right.

[wonky]

@furt

It’s not “spin,” it’s my opinion. I think fictionally depicting the death of a sitting president, any sitting president, is in poor taste (come to think of it, I’d probably say the same for depicting the death of any public figure).

“In poor taste” isn’t the same as viciously nuts. The birthers, the deathers, and the dickers are NUTS. You threw this movie in as an equivalent to them and it’s not.

[furt]

@Ludovic

This is literally the biggest backpedal I’ve ever seen on the Internet. It’s almost enough to scorch yourself with the backdrafting flamethrowing.

Fuck off. I never said anything at all about anyone on this site. I’m not backpedaling if I never said it to begin with.
Are you going to stick by your assertion that you want to rape Sarah Palin? Oh you’re not? Ah hah! Backpedaling!

:rolleyes:

[furt]

@Captain_Carrot

I’ve never heard or read the term “BusHitler” before right-wing crazies here claimed that it was common. Not on the Dope, not on Daily Kos, not at my liberal high school, nowhere. Your original claim was not that people simply compared Bush to Hitler, but that they used the word “BusHitler”. If that’s not backpedaling, nothing is.

I gave you a list of stupid/nasty things done by those on the political left, even gave you cites, and included in there the one word, “Bushitler,” as shorthand for a whole genre of Bush=Hitler rhetoric. You’re the one who insists somehow that one word has to be totemic, not me.

I guess Rush Limbaugh is in the clear, right? Cause all he did was say Obama is a fascist, and that’s like, totally different from calling him Hilter, right?

[Squink]

@Captain_Carrot

I’ve never heard or read the term “BusHitler” before right-wing crazies here claimed that it was common.

It sounds like a Rushism, rather than anything a self-respecting lefty would come up with.
As with Rush’s ‘Porkulous’, ‘Bela Pelosi’ or ‘Goregasm’, whoever came up Bushitler was trying too hard to achieve the appearance of clever intellectualism.
Phony doesn’t travel well, and Bushitler just feels phony.

[wonky]

This thread is doing a spectacular job of proving the point.

[furt]

@Squink

It sounds like a Rushism, rather than anything a self-respecting lefty would come up with.
As with Rush’s ‘Porkulous’, ‘Bela Pelosi’ or ‘Goregasm’, whoever came up Bushitler was trying too hard to achieve the appearance of clever intellectualism.
Phony doesn’t travel well, and Bushitler just feels phony.

WTF? I gave links. Google the damn word and you get DailyKos, and Democratic Underground. Yes, and Michelle Malkin … for all I know she or Limbaugh did coin it. But the people that created these imagessure as hell embraced it, so WTF difference does it make?

Keith Olberman called Bush a fascist, on national TV, over Telecom FISA immunity (which, interestingly, Obama now also supports). But it’s totally different when he says it instead of Hannity! Sitting members of congress have said that their opponents employ “brownshirt tactics,” but that won’t count either, I’m sure.
This is nuts. I’m not gonna sit around and argue semantics with ya’ll. Bye.

[Squink]

@furt

Bye.

But what about that crazy Iraq war you guys pushed so hard on crazy evidence?
Aren’t you going to tell us how that equates to Al Franken being Jewish, or sumpin?
Your leaving will not serve the great cause of equivalence, and that hurts America.
Don’t you love your country?

[Captain_Carrot]

@furt

I gave you a list of stupid/nasty things done by those on the political left, even gave you cites, and included in there the one word, “Bushitler,” as shorthand for a whole genre of Bush=Hitler rhetoric. You’re the one who insists somehow that one word has to be totemic, not me.

You picked a spectacularly bad word to use as shorthand, then. Usually when one picks a single word, or even phrase, as an example of a political phenomenon, that word or phrase is a good example of that phenomenon. Something that practically nobody has ever said (though apparently it has appeared on the Internet a little) is a really bad choise.

[elfkin477]

@Whack-a-Mole

Science in support of the OP:

“respondents who had described themselves as liberals showed “significantly greater conflict-related neural activity” when the hypothetical situation called for an unscheduled break in routine…. Conservatives, however, were less flexible, refusing to deviate from old habits “despite signals that this … should be changed.”

So, while there are crazies on both sides liberals exhibit more ability to adjust and change their mind. Conservatives tend to be more dogmatic and stay the course no matter how many times you wave a birth certificate under their nose.

That study seems to run contrary to this one that shows that both left-wing and right-wing brains shut down the logic centers when faced with facts that challenge their views.

Besides, if you do a little digging, you discover the methodology for the portion of the study the quote on the page you linked to is talking about: it’s the same controversial reaction time task (one of two buttons pushed when given a stimulus on screen, in this case push m or w) that have been used to “prove” people are racist or hate successful people etc rather than the electroencephalographs talked about earlier in the blurb.

[Der_Trihs]

@elfkin477

That study seems to run contrary to this one that shows that both left-wing and right-wing brains shut down the logic centers when faced with facts that challenge their views.

On the other hand, the study mentioned here talks about how Republicans - but not Democrats - are so wedded to their beliefs that disproof actually makes them stronger.

Political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler provided two groups of volunteers with the Bush administration’s prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. One group was given a refutation – the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration’s claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.

They have a cultish, conspiracy theorist mentality as far as I can tell. One where disproof is just taken as more proof; the “The lack of evidence just proves how good the coverup is” mentality.

[VoluntaryPlan]

@furt

Are you going to stick by your assertion that you want to rape Sarah Palin?

If she were in to it and I were dru–

Wait, this is a trap, right?

[BrainGlutton]

@furt

Are you going to stick by your assertion that you want to rape Sarah Palin?

. . . but I’d be thinking of Tina Fey.

[monavis]

It may be true that there are radicals on both sides,but what I can’t get is the fact that the right wing doesn’t realize that if Jesus were alive today he would be called a bleeding heart liberal.

[elucidator]

Not raped by me, or even BG. But if she got thrown down by one of those moose and given a jolly good rogering…

You know, they say that once you go Bullwinkle, you never go back…

[constanze]

Well, crazies on both sides, but especially on the right, have a long history in the US.

The non-crazies can do something to stop it.

Another article:

Something strange has happened in America in the nine months since Barack Obama was elected. It has best been summarized by the comedian Bill Maher: “The Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved to a mental hospital.”