I wish you gave me a rational rebuttal. You probably wish you could give me one too.
India has a low per capita gross domestic product, but also a low murder rate. I do not believe Japan is considered to be a social democracy, but the Japanese do have a low crime rate, and a high standard of living.
India and Japan both have populations that have practiced urban civilization for at least three thousand years, and agriculture for many more thousand years than that. Agriculture and urban civilization exert different population pressures than a hunter gatherer existence.
Blacks in the United States and Europe are chiefly descended from the Bantu. These only began practicing agriculture about two and a half thousand years ago. Large numbers of them only began living in cities during the twentieth century.
Differences between blacks on the one hand, and Caucasians and Asians on the other hand in terms of average ability, personality, and character can be explained by the number of generations that separate each group form a paleolithic existence.
Another thread ruined. Oh well. .
South Africa’s got two out of three now, just give 'em time to work on the crime problem.
What the *FUCK *?
I’m really offended that you think poor whites don’t game the system.
Well, once Starve the Beast [del]bears fruit[/del] blasts all the buds off the trees, we’ll see what happens.
I grew up on the right, this is a standard line. Has been for a generation.
Whoa whoa whoa. You know something about Japan before 500 CE? There are a lot of archaeologists who would love that info!
And each generation is born ignorant, each man becoming a product of his immediate environment. This is irrelevant.
In any case, US blacks have a lot of Anglo-Saxon, Cherokee, & Celtic ancestry. Granted, I don’t know that the Gaelic-speaking peoples would pass your “been agrarian long enough” test–
[expletive deleted] Oh, no! You’ve got me convinced! The Irish must be disenfranchised immediately for the good of all!
No, seriously, this is twaddle.
Botswana
In Botswana the estimated murder rate is 12 per 100,000 inhabitants. In the United States it is 5.0. In India it is 2.8.
The per capita gross domestic product is $14,000. In the United States it is $47,200. In India it is $3,500.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html?countryName=Botswana&countryCode=bc®ionCode=afr&rank=84#bc
All three countries have regular, contested elections.
Ok I’ll bite, São Tomé & Principe.
Around 300 BC, the Yayoi people began to enter the Japanese islands, intermingling with the Jōmon.[2
The Yayoi period (弥生時代, Yayoi jidai?) is an Iron Age era in the history of Japan traditionally dated 300 BC to 300 AD.[1] It is named after the neighbourhood of Tokyo where archaeologists first uncovered artifacts and features from that era. Distinguishing characteristics of the Yayoi period include the appearance of new pottery styles and the start of an intensive rice agriculture in paddy fields. The Yayoi followed the Jōmon period (14,000–300 BCE) and Yayoi culture flourished in a geographic area from southern Kyūshū to northern Honshū.
A new study used the Accelerator mass spectrometry method to analyze carbonized remains on pottery and wooden stakes, and discovered that these were dated back to 900–800 BCE, 500 years earlier than previously believed.[2
This pushes back urban civilization for the Japanese to 900 BC. The Yayoi are believed to have immigrated to Korea, where they had a tradition of urban civilization going back even further. By contrast the Bantu never developed cities.
New Deal Democrat, I’ve told you over and over not to hijack threads with your racial theories. This is yet another formal warning. You continue to ignore moderator instructions, so the staff may review your posting privileges.
In the future, report objectionable posts rather than responding with borderline insults.
WOuldn’t it look that way if it was in terms of dollars spent rather than percentage of GDP?
Russia is a mostly white country, and their murder rate is 15 per 100,000. India is a country with a tradition of agriculture and civilization that dates earlier than Western Europe. Bulgaria is a mostly white country with a per capita income lower than Botswana. Bulgaria - Wikipedia
So I’d say there were some flaws in your thesis.
My thesis is that the longer a population has practiced agriculture and urban civilization the lower its crime rate is likely to be, and the higher its average intelligence. I am not claiming a one to one correspondence in every case. Russia’s high murder rate is probably due to the social and economic dislocations that followed the fall of Communism. Nevertheless, it is still much lower than the murder rate in South Africa.
Bulgaria is also a former Communist country.
Again, not relevant to this thread. Take this tangent elsewhere - and that goes for people who want to dispute this argument as well.