Will Trump leave office peacefully and normally if he loses the election?

You missed the point. This comes up EVERYTIME a President runs for re-election. It happened when Obama ran for re-election … or are you saying Obama was a Fascist?

How much of a bet are you willing to make on that prediction?

You missed the point. This is the first time the President himself has floated the idea as have his acolytes.

If Trump wins a second term (shudder), the question may still stand in slightly altered form: **Will Trump leave office peacefully and normally at the end of a second term? **

By then he’ll be 78, if his bad health habits haven’t killed him. On the other hand, autocratic types seem to live a long time; didn’t Mugabe hold on to power until he was 93? And who knows, maybe Ivanka will be president-elect (double shudder) so he won’t mind stepping aside.

So, putting on my Captain Obvious hat for a moment, a lot could happen between now and 2024. But if he hangs on for another term and the new president-elect is not someone from his inner circle, we are apt to be asking about the nature of his departure four years from now.

My prediction, if he loses: I think he’ll leave relatively peacefully although he’ll call somewhat vaguely for an uprising, and his supporters will talk darkly about a revolution in the streets. Nothing much will come of it, though, despite his increasingly outraged and incoherent tweet-storming. In other words, he’ll leave more or less peacefully, but not normally.

The problem is that troublesome interval between losing the election in November and the new President being sworn in in January. The loser is still the President and still able to give orders to the military as commander in chief. If he wants to, he can dig his heels in and cry “election fraud”. He might, as a consequence, declare a national emergency, necessitating a nullification of the election results and, just maybe, declare martial law. While the House would be in uproar, the Senate, with Mitch McConnell’s mouth full of Trump’s balls, would likely go along with him. While this sounds far-fetched, consider the shit-stain fucktard we are dealing with. I have a feeling, though, that the military would not cooperate in the end. He has pissed off too many of the generals he claimed to love so much.

You just described Hillary to a T!

And I’d like to get a jump ahead in the game: Has any President before Trump done this? Or this? :eek: Note that in both cases Trump himself tweeted or retweeted this nonsense. It wasn’t attributed to him by opponents (as with Dubya) or thrown out into the ether by over-enthusiastic but unauthorized supporters, Trump adopted it as his own.

And to get two jumps ahead to leapfrog the inevitable “Trump was joking” imagine the GOP/Fox (but I repeat myself) reaction if Obama had made the same joke as sitting President. :dubious: Not that he would’ve been stupid enough to make that joke, never mind multiple times.

None. I don’t gamble.

I think he’ll leave peacefully if not normally after a second term. I would expect a lot of petulant bitterness.

But I think he would have passed his peak by the end of a second term. If Trump gets re-elected in 2020, I predict he will spend a significant portion of his second term trying to change the law so he can run for a third term. And I think he will fail because he doesn’t have the skills to push something like that through on his own and he won’t get his usual support from other Republicans on that issue.

So Trump will try to lay the groundwork for a third term and fail. And he will then retreat into angry conspiracy theories. Somebody else will become the Republican nominee and Trump will mutter that they’re “betraying” him. Trump will be as unhappy being replaced by a Republican as he would be is a Democrat replaces him. Trump doesn’t want anyone who isn’t himself to be President.

Trump’s disapproval will probably split the party and undermine whoever the 2024 Republican candidate is. So the Democrats will probably win in 2024 in Trump gets his second term.

In what universe? Is it the one where Spock has a beard?

Maybe he meant Sir Edmund Hilary. You know how he was always going about Everest this and Everest that.

Maybe “T” means troglodyte?

Urinals will flush…

Very few people agree with me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he committed suicide somewhere along the way. (No, I don’t want that to happen, especially because of Barron.)

Back in the Nixonian era, I was gifted with a pad of elegant stickers.
RICHARD M NIXON
MEMORIAL TOILET
I adorned public restrooms across the land. I felt empowered. Right.

But this is a new age in need of new approaches. Sure, I could go with:
DONALD J TRUMP
OFFICIAL PISSPOT
It just doesn’t have the right ring to it. We need some vivid slogans.

How about:

AMERICA’S NEW GLOBAL REPUTATION
THANKS, TRUMP!

Also remember that every Confederate soldier, from Robert E Lee down to Private Johnny Reb, was pardoned.

Besides, as I like to joke:
Why does the USA have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world 500 times over?
Because 99.8% of the soldiers with “the keys” would probably ignore the order to launch.

Neither. San Quentin, in the heart of Deep Blue California. Literally about two miles away from where former Senator Boxer lived when she was in California. There’s a ferry that goes right by it every hour or so.

“Tax evasion”? Not revealing your taxes is not evidence of tax evasion. My guess as to why he didn’t reveal them is, he doesn’t want to reveal how much he claimed in capital losses each year. The last time I looked, you could carry over long-term capital losses past some limit ($3000?) from year to year.

From your own cite:

The GAO characterized it as “pranks” and said they were similar to past ones, including ones done by Bush Sr. staffers. So, it doesn’t really support the claim that the Clinton staffers did anything “out of spite.” Or that what was done was out of the ordinary.

It’s not proof of tax evasion. (Which is the point of not revealing them. As long as they stay hidden, there’s no proof.) But the fact that somebody is refusing to reveal their tax information when it’s causing them inconvenience is evidence that revealing them would cause them greater inconvenience.

Trump shows no sign of standing on principles. And he has no problem with making all kinds of personal things public. So the reasonable assumption is that if he’s keeping his tax information private, he’s doing it out of self-interest and the knowledge that revealing that information would cause him serious problems.

Reminds me of the graffiti that adorned the stalls during Nixon’s term:

“Republicans: you can’t shit here…your asshole is in Washington.”