Win98 Stumper -- fellow techs, need your help

oh, so you’d already used the start menu, then?
::runs for cover::

TGIF

Sorry Tech, this is a complete hijack, but since there seem to be quite a few NT people looking and answering, I’m going to post my own NT problem, rather than start a new one and have people tell me to go to an NT forum(which I have tried several, but have gotten no answer.

I’m a Unix guy who was given a NT system to do some stuff on. I have a really long batch file I want to run over multiple computers. I can set up a simple batch file to do want I want on the slave computer, the problem is in getting the master to start all the slave processes, then do its own thing. If this was unix I would simply have a few background rsh processes to do this. But I can’t figure out how to get remote processes to work correctly while returning the prompt. I’m using the Nt resourse kit, and have tried RSHSVC(couldn’t get it to recognize a .rhosts, so I kept getting access denied denied), remote(just kind of crappy and inflexible), and rcmd(most promising so far). The new problem is trying to get the process to run without waiting for a return cursor. I can use ‘start’ to get one rcmd process running and return control, but after that point ‘start’ just won’t run another RCMD command, although it will do the rest of the batch stuff as long as it is local. I have bribed the Operations team into approving perl for the NT environment, so I’m not forced to using the stupid MS-DOS batch files anymore, but I still don’t know how to get remote system commands to work, since they are they same crappy stuff I have using the batch files. Has anyone done this before and have any suggestions?

handy? I’ll say! Got a tough computer problem? Call 1-800- obvious.

Zette

Zette, networks fool me sometimes too. Why often just letting the computer sit there all by itself it straightens itself out. As happened the other day.

techchick68, being a tech, I’m sure you know that when you have the computer in front of you, its much easier to work on then when you read about someones’ computer & try to work on it remotely, right?

Gee, and I was going to suggest checking the spelling on the domain name on the client machine. And, it depends on whether you can ping by IP address or by server name; if you can’t ping by name, check the address of the DNS/WINS resource, and, if you don’t have a server for DNS/WINS, check the LMHOSTS file to make sure there’s an entry for the domain host.

Nevermind.

Dude, you’re only digging yourself deeper. Take a deep breath, and put down the shovel. :stuck_out_tongue:

neuroman, I have seen hundreds of posts from people asking about their computer situations. I even tried to get a forum just for computer technical questions. Sometimes you just have to ask the most basic questions & risk appearing condescending, but not intending to. One person I know could not get a video to play in the vcr. I told her, be sure its plugged in to wall. So she checked & found it wasn’t plugged in.

But the point is, its a lot of work to try to figure out a computer by reading about it on the message board. As I said, I have read hundreds of messages about computers here & seldom do two people give the same answer…

Beyong the pinging points your “good job” description of the NT-WIN 98 networking setup stuff consisted of this…

“I also had him go through and read me all the critical network information (aka Network Properties) and all looks good.”

Given the nature of the problem you described and the diagnostic procedures you had already done there are basically three main choices at this point that respondents could give you.

1: Double check the basic and advanced settings. This is what most people (including myself) did.

2: Blow out the entire protocol stack and re-install.

3: Re-install windows and networking.

The last “nuke the install” solution is generally to be avoided as it is more time consuming and a general PITA and I think what most people were trying to help you avoid.

Despite your handle I don’t think most of the respondents (including myself) know you or your technical credentials from a hole in the wall and those repeating basic checkpoint info were merely trying to be helpful to “Your help is appreciated” request and not dissing you or your technical chops. Less attitude and more gratitude might be in order for the general intent to be helpful even if some respondents didn’t grok your original post in it’s entirety and the scope of your technical mastery.

That’s a good suggestion- I’ve had Win98 systems that worked fine suddenly need an lmhosts or hosts file. Exactly why was never found out (DHCP IP lease expired maybe? something cached is now invalid after a BDC takes over temporarily from the PDC? who knows?), but putting the correct lmhost or host file fixed the problem.

I’ve also seen it happen where you could log in locally, but not through windows dial-up networking (Win98 box logging into NT network). You could connect and ping the server, but no network neighborhood, network drives, etc. A new hosts file fixed that also (but it used to work without, so what changed??? We never found out).
Arjuna34