Wisconsin GOP passes union-stripping bill

http://The $7 mil was another Walker lie

But, don’t let that stop you from continuing to spew their bullshit.

This is about union busting and give aways to Walkers cronies. Plain and simple. Nothing to do with the budget crisis that he created himself.

To quote Obama, “Elections have consequences”

These actions were a result of the last election. The people will be able to vote their support, or not, in the next one.

Hey, how about a retraction for the lie you unknowingly spread up there?

Or do you just not care if something is true, as long as it supports your uneducated intuitions?

That number they were throwing around turned out to be off by at least a factor of 20, and might turn out to be negligible.

[edit: beat to the punch, sigh]

I’d say, given the history of the past 50 years or so, both.

I think there’s little to choose between the two. They are both big government/big spend parties. The programs they’ve started all seem to end up deep in the red. Between them, they’ve run up a $14 Trillion debt that, even with the current low interest rates, eats up a huge amount of money.

In 2010, interest on our debt was $413,954,825,362.17. That’s money that does NOTHING for our economy or people. That’s money we could spend to improve things; schools, infrastructure, Medicare/caid…instead it’s pretty much just gone.

When interest rates rise from their current lows, as they always do, the situation will be worse.

Bravo to both our parties for their sterling leadership.

From the linked article:

The “worst case scenario” figure did come from Plale’s own staff

What was the interest on your mortgage or car loan last year? Would you say that did nothing for you?

And it was debunked, yet you still felt the need to throw it out there. Now that you know it was wrong, I’m sure you’ll retract that rather than continue to repeat the fabricated figure.

Certainly in the long run it does. But the reason is that the Democrats chose to absent themselves, barring any budget bill. So any related changes which don’t fall into the budget directly can be passed. Hopefully, the Democrats will come back now, and they can come to a budgetary compromise.

What compromise? Every concession EXCEPT ending collective bargaining was agreed to. And the Republicans forced that through anyway. There was never the option of compromise, it was do it 100% Walker’s way. No deals, no talking it over, no negotiations. What is there to compromise now?

Budgetary compromise?

The unions already agreed (long ago) to the changes in their compensation.

This is about killing the union.

Missing the budget compromise being sought here.

ETA: Curses! Beat by seconds! :slight_smile:

Well, then what was it doing there in the first place?

I’ll do nothing of the sort as they still do not have an actual estimate.

Plale didn’t say the numbers were incorrect, he said they were probably worst case scenario.

I hope the unions and the Democratic senators all take a hard line “hell no” stance to any compromise now that Walker has shown himself to be a liar. Make the state honor it’s commitments and pay them what the contract says they’ll be paid.

Mental note, flickster is a completely remorseless liar.

At least I’m able to read the linked article

PolitiFact has a lengthy article on this. They rate the $7 million estimate as “Pants on Fire” lie.

What will it take for you to accept the $7 million number is colossal bullshit?

I don’t have notes on cars. The interest from my mortgage goes to a local individual’s mortgage company, not a bank per se. It stays pretty much in the local community as others borrow from his company.

Unlike the interest on our debt which benefits the Chinese and other non-US entities to a great extent. Voinovich said that half the national debt is held by foreign investors, a statement considered true by Politifact. So, if you’re happy we’re borrowing roughly 40 cents of every dollar we spend and sending the interest to non-US entities, I’m glad you can view this in a positive light.

I can’t see it as a successful long or even short term strategy.

Well, hey…what’s $347K in damages amongst friends?

I mean, how can you have a decent rally without tearing the shit out of stuff, right?

And you still continue to lie about it. At least I know not to bother talking to you since silly things like the truth don’t matter.