Given your inane comments in the Christain Hoaxes and the Elizabeth Smart threads, I think a more important query is: Who are you?
Big whoop.
Nope. Just fools who make foolish statements. Surely, you’re familiar with that, now aren’t you?
Monty, I like you, but yes, you really ARE extremely abrasive and defensive. Any time someone asks a question about LDS, or misunderstands something, you automatically seem to take it as a personal affront.
CHILL.
I like you too, Guin. That does not mean I can’t disagree with your assertion there. Nothing personal.
That’s one way to take it, Monty (though I’d suggest that Guin offered her opinion vs. an assertion of fact). Of course, IIRC, Lynn also suggested that your posts can seem to come off as abrasive. as did a (perhaps trolling) newbie in another recent thread. and another poster (I’m trying not to drag unwilling participants in) in another recent thread commented to Guin something like “well, he didn’t come off as too abrasive for Monty”. and you could add other voices there as well (mine for example).
So, you can sit back and decide that collectively, we’re all wrong, (although telling some one they’re wrong about their perception is kinda off kilter - we may be incorrect as to our assesment of your desired tone, but I’d rather believe that we’re correct about what we perceive to be your tone)
or-
you could sit back and take a look at the variety of folks who seem to be saying ‘you know, guy, sometimes you come off more abrasive than we think you want to come off,’ and decide you may wish to reflect a bit more on how your tone is coming through.
Note, please the difference between ‘being abrasive’ and ‘coming off as abrasive’.
A serious question -
It seems to me that some posters in this thread in Great Debates have gone over the line of “thou shalt not wish death upon another” as it concerns US and allied troops in Iraq.
There are even a few posters on the SDMB who are scheduled to be off to Iraq to fight shortly. Might it not be considered a violation of the “thou shalt not wish death upon a Doper” to express even a veiled hope for a high body count? Or even of the Prime Directive of “Thou shalt not be a jerk”?
I realize that this can, and probably will, slop over into discussions of censorship, and there will be cries that the SDMB is enforcing the thought control of “you must support our troops!” even on foreign or anti-war Dopers. And I don’t wish to add to your headaches, Lynne.
But I was - and am - very seriously offended by statements like some I encountered in the linked thread. Very seriously indeed.
I did not report it to a mod, as I was not sure of my own motives, but here is the sticky saying that such is inappropriate, even in the Pit.
I will ask at least for consideration of the Official Straight Dope Position, if not an ex cathedra ruling. And I thank you all in advance for your time.
Regards,
Shodan
Heh. Shodan, I came here to make that exact same post. Well said.
Hmm, so then I guess that expressing an interest in taking someone for a worms eye view of the city behind a '49 Mercury before allowing them to take a dirt nap under my back porch would be right out then, correct?
Shodan and others, this is really something that you DO need to report to the moderator of that forum.
I wonder, though, where such a policy would lead. If someone joined the board who had a relative in Iraq, would it suddenly become verboten for people to call for a relaxation in the rules of engagement toward Iraqi civilians? Would posts along the lines of “We need to undertake a shock-and-awe campaign in which we annihilate the enemy” become out-of-bounds? Or would such posts only be disallowed once an actual Iraqi civilian joined the boards?
I’ve been arguing against the pro-American-death people in those threads, but it seems to me that in war time, people are going to die; a discussion of how those deaths should be apportioned is a legitimate discussion.
Daniel
Daniel’s point is a good one. And I cannot be sure that I have not posted in ways that sound like I was wishing death upon Saddam Hussein at least. So, as I said, I am not sure of my own motives or that I have been blameless.
Thanks for your responses, Lynne, Debaser, and DanielWithrow.
Regards,
Shodan
Do what I do
Wish Great Ham upon them…
as opposed to Great Harm
Why Great Ham is the worst you can do to your enemy. Delicious sweet ham, why your enemy will never do anything but eat that oh so tasty ham. Soon the fatty acids will do their worst and he will degenerate into becoming a couch potato of epic proportions and inevitably do the “Elvis death”, massive heart attack while pinching off to make way for more Great Ham. Silent, effiecient, and non traceable as your enemy eats the evidence.
All the great assassins use the great Ham method. Cleaner, neater, and a much more slower death. And no one can trace it back to you.
Why myself I have recorded at least 120 kills thanks to my weapon of choice, the Honeybaked 12 pounder in a rich crust, spiral cut. A deadly weapon, its not to be put in your average spree ham user. No this one should be only put in the professionals hands.
So do what the modern killer does, wish Great Ham upon them!
Sometimes, rather than wish a painful slow death upon someone, I wish that God grants them all the joy, happiness and long life they truly deserve. Would this be acceptable?
Or how about offering a meeting with Cousin Vinnie?
I can understand if one is singling out a group of people…but, there ARE some individuals who really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, deserve it.
Really, this is someone who does, but I won’t mention names…
- Jinx
:mad: at the dirty dogs, rats, and weasles not yet rounded-up and put to sleep. :grrrrrrrrr
If not for “pot shots”, you’d nothing to say.
Wow, how postmodern.
Noob wearywitch posts drive-by pot-shot at Monty, accusing Monty of only posting pot-shots.
Plus the complete stupidity of leaving out the word “have”.
Desmostylus: Yep; it’s yet another board stalker. And this one’s so inept it’s fetching stuff from over a month ago to bitch about.
Monty, have you gotten my last 2 e mails? I don’t know if you don’t reply!
vanilla, wishing life on everyone…
Yep. Got them.
I was tired of seeing Monty’s name be the last poster in this thread.
So now mine is.
No… mine is.