You sure are!
Either that, or I am a Trump-hating, DFL-voting conservative who supports a center-left health care plan (not MFA), higher taxes on the rich, increased teacher pay, etc. That kind of conservative, you see them all the time. 
…both positions can be true, yes indeed! I’m glad I could clear that up.
So you concede that Matt Damon is lying his ass off? Okay then.
Are you going to demonstrate how “twitter mobs” influenced Damon’s position? Can you reconcile the two positions on twitter mobs that you hold, that mob behaviour is unacceptable in one instance but perfectly acceptable in another?
LOL.
If you think that’s funny, feel free to explain how all my issue positions fit with conservatism. Not just one or two that you cherrypick but all of them.
And I don’t “concede” that Damon was lying his ass off, I said that from the beginning. He didn’t have the option to just leave Twitter: he had to eat some shit to avoid becoming blacklisted in Hollywood.
…I personally think that the whole “you don’t think Muslims should be allowed to immigrate to America thing” instantly disqualifies you from holding “liberal credentials” regardless of any other positions that you hold, but YMMV of course.
If we are to believe your conspiracy theory Damon **has **to be lying. He has to be a lying liar.
LOL. Who was going to blacklist him? He is a Hollywood powerhouse. He’s one of the fucking gatekeepers. He literally greenlights projects. He was never going to get blacklisted over this. You have no idea where the power in Hollywood actually lies.
So you still think he is a sexist misogynist who listened with sincerity to his women friends and just felt the sincere impulse to publicly grovel. How does that add up?
I didn’t have a trouble with the word’s meaning. It’s just… tacky and boorish and faux-intellectual. It grates.
Presumption of innocence is a legal term of art that’s a good principle to keep in matters of the law. It has no validity whatsoever in opinions, optics and branding.
Sure it does. Just because you can’t enforce it somehow with the law does not mean it’s not an ethical principle.
Do you believe the ethical principle should be just to always believe women, and that whatever percentage of accusations are false is just too bad so sad for the falsely accused?
Maybe when the ramifications of being falsely accused reach a “life is ruined” level and the percentage of “false accusations” reaches a significant level and when people are afraid of “being falsely accused of sexual assault” simply by walking down the street, then it might become something we talk about.
I would almost guarantee that a woman standing alone in the DC metro at 2:30 in the morning would be concerned about being assaulted if she saw a group of guys coming towards her. I doubt that any man, standing in the Metro at 2:30 in the morning seeing a group of women coming towards him would think “Oh no, I might get falsely accused of sexual assault”
Whatever the percentages, my best friend in college had his life ruined by a false accusation of rape. And people seemed to have no trouble believing it, I guess just because he was an introvert with a slight speech impediment.
I don’t believe the DC metro is in operation at 2:30 in the morning. I also don’t believe in assuming what a woman who is out at any particular time of day must surely (or even almost surely) think about the men they encounter.
More to the point of the OP, whenever I read or hear from someone who insists they’re socially liberal and totally tolerant of other people (so “tolerant” they don’t even get offended by people who make offensive comments and such), but they just can’t stand people who are “woke” or “woke culture,” I read it about the same as a statement that begins with “I’m not a (fill in the blank), but…”
As a certain English playwright put it, “the lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
I think the ethical principle is that Matt Damon is not entitled to my respect or my going to see his movies ; and if I think (for any reason whatsoever) that he’s Bad and Wrong then I am allowed to hold this opinion and share it with others.
He’s not falsely accused of anything, either, so there’s that. He made a toxic comment. He’s been held accountable for it, in a minor way that absolutely did not impact his wealth or career (I mean shit, MEL GIBSON still makes movies for crying out loud !).
“Woke me up” when it’s time to care about this evidently gross injustice.
Oh wait we were talking about Woody there. Then… yeah, still not seeing the point where I should care ? Accusations were made against him, were investigated (as well they should have been), the accusations were eventually dismissed as without basis and he hasn’t been arrested. He’ll keep making movies and being a creep. I would assume the person who made the false accusation was counter-sued.
Oh, the huge manatee !
No countersuit that I have heard of. And the false accusation that ruined my best friend’s life was anonymous, so he had no opportunity to sue. Kind of like the men on that media list that was sent around.
Did he now? Is he homeless on the street with no job or any possible means to improve his life?
That’s weird, since I’ve been on the DC metro at 2:30 in the morning.
How recently? I completed extensive research prior to making that statement.
See rail timetables.
How much did your research include past time tables of the Metro?
Yeah, that’s not an accusation then, is it ? That’s starting a rumor. Everyone recognizes this as shitty, and yes, even those terrible woke people will call you an idiot for unquestionably believing an anonymous rumor absent any sort of evidence or pattern.
If we want to keep it in the realm of entertainment, people had a hard time believing Bill Cosby could possibly be a sex pest because his public persona was so clean and wholesome and people only turned on him when the 50th woman said “yeah no it’s true”. In the case of Woody Allen, his public persona and relation to women has been really sketch for over 20 years and it’s no super good optics to ditch your wife to start having sex with her daughter, like it’s not degenerate deviancy or anything but it’s… well, super fucking creepy.
So from there it’s not exactly surprising that people would be amenable to the notion that he is even more of a sex pest from just one accusation.
In reality, and in a majority of cases it takes a pattern and a number of confirming accusations for people to turn on people who otherwise have not given people any hint of problematic-ness before. And if people really did all immediately get taken in by the rumor against your friend… maybe they had other reasons to besides “I heard he’s, like, totally a rapist” ? IOW it’s difficult to assess the validity of your “I swear, you guys” anecdotal evidence ;).
And it’s really tonedeaf, bad-faith and more than a little bit problematic to be going “SEE ? Witness this poor man who’s carreer can be ruined with a snap of the fingers even though it very demonstrably has not ! Don’t believe women because they make false reports all of the time ! It’s really men who are oppressed when you think about it.”
Fuck that. That’s not a line of argument that is going to work on real progressives. Rather, that’s a line of “argument” that keeps appearing in incel, MRA & alt-right circles. I don’t think you really want to be the person saying “but maybe mysoginistic self-loathing trog has a point”.