Why is it that every time one of these threads come along, the same crew show up to rant about how everyone would be thin if they would only eat less and exercise more.
Well, yes, that’s true. And if it were so easy, don’t you think everybody would do it?
God it gets old - 80 cites are provided showing multiple reasons why weight loss is more difficult for some people, sometimes to the point of being impossible, and the same group show up and spout “Exercise and eat less! Exercise and eat less!”
It makes me wonder about their reading comprehension.
Out of curiosity, are you attempting to lose weight, or are you one of the people who are content to weigh whatever they weigh, even if they’re heavy? I recall an earlier poster questioning the existence of the latter?
There were also cites from doctors telling people to make new, healthy lifestyle changes. Not just about going on some stupid “diet,” but changing the way one LIVES in order to combat obesity. Nobody saw those? No one said it was easy, it’s hard to change the way you’ve been living for the past X amount of years. Doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Doesn’t mean you have some genetic deformity by which calories mean nothing to you. Change the way you live. It WORKS! Just do it!
It’s interesting how this thread morphed from being about obese people with insulin resistance and other legitimate medical problems to people with ETFM disorder.
Not really. ETFM is what it generally comes down to. I know it’s difficult for fatties to lose the weight but difficulty is not a recognised medical disorder. It’s difficult because they have become accustomed to never doing anything that burns off the excess kilojoules. What they believe should be sufficient and what is are completely different things.
Anyhow - I agree that eating less and exercising more works very, very well for most people, and they will lose weight. However, perhaps they won’t lose “enough” weight to be considered thin. Or perhaps their one of the people for whom exercise and less food WON’T work. Or perhaps they eat too frikin’ much, and they’re so depressed they can bairly get out of bed let alone go for a walk so they eat more.
I dunno. All I know is that there’s a lot of fat people in the US, and a lot of them are pretty unhappy about it, and if “Eat less! Exercise more!” was such an easy solution, that wouldn’t be the case. Right?
From now on, I pledge to call it a simple solution instead of an easy one. It sure wasn’t easy for me to burn off those 40 pounds over those 18 months, but the process itself was pretty simple.
Just because people won’t do it doesn’t mean it’s not the solution. Just because it’s not easy to stop and change the way you live isn’t easy doesn’t mean it’s not the solution. It IS the solution. Making lifestyle changes WORKS. You are not genetically defunct, if you are still obese it’s because you have not made the necessary changes for whatever reason. You’re depressed, you’re lazy, you don’t have the time, you like hoagies too much, you hate exercising, you’ve gone accostumed to your lifestyle. What. Ever.
There are a million excuses, reasons, justifications (whatever the current term we’re using here is) for why people are overweight. People can change their lives. They CAN but WON’T.
Hmm… No. This thread was about a woman who got offended by her doctor’s medical advice. Which by the way is the same thing my doctor has adviced me to do, even if I am not obese (yet), but with a family history of high blood pressure, diabetes and a tendency to gain weight is as good advice as I expect from any doctor worth his salt.
Anyways… I plead guilty to not having any reason for my excess weight other than loving good food entirely too much. On my defense I must say I eat fresh, healthy and home-cooked food… just a bit more than I need to.
More specifically, he told her (in so many words) she would die fat, unloved and alone. This is what you expect from your doctor?
I don’t blame a doc for doing their duty and covering the subject of my weight. Making assumptions about my personal relationships and happiness therefrom is going too far.
The Venus de Willendorf is a fertility symbol, she doesn’t represent an actual woman. Look at her body porportions, especially those teeny tiny arms, there is no way a person could exist with a body like that. All the hunter-gatherers I’ve seen have been rather thin. :dubious:
You know what? Fuck this. I’m overweight, you know why? Because I have more important things to do with my life (and willpower) than avoiding being called a ‘fatty’.
I’m glad I wasn’t listening to the medical establishment (or y’all) when I decided to change my lifestyle and, as a result, lost 25% of my bodyweight 5 years ago (and kept it off).
Amen. We all have our flaws, and being overweight ain’t a particularly bad one. It is by far preferable to desperately denying your own free will in an attempt to excuse lesser failings.
You mean were there when they carved it? Come on, nobody really KNOWS that for sure, they can only speculate. And perfect proportions are pretty damn hard to get when your carving tools consist of a sharp rock and another rock. It’s hard enough with soapstone and a Dremel.
Which medical establishment, which physician, which Doper has said that it isn’t desireable to eat healthy foods and exercise?
It’s great that you have been successful in changing your lifestyle, losing 25% of your bodyweight, if that was desireable, and keeping it off for five years. I assume are one of the success stories. They do happen with lifestyle changes for a small percentage of people. (I have read in several sources over time that from 2 to 5% of people who lose weight are able to maintain that weight loss for longer than two years. Sorry, no cite.)
For me, losing 25% of my bodyweight would only have been a good start. I lost 50% and still would like to round that out at a little over 60%.
The problem is that your solution does not work for most people. My solution is not for everyone either. What works for one person doesn’t necessarily work for another.
You don’t seem to know very much about medical disorders that relate to weight loss, but I think several people have made the point that losing the weight is not the most difficult part.
C’mon, look at how detailed that sculpture is, down to showing representations of hair (or fabric, depending on which theory you subscribe to). Those proportions were deliberate.
