Woman raped on crowded Philadelphia train car; bystanders film it without intervening

New story on this, at least one rider reported it, and taped it.

No one else is known to have recorded it.

Also, this was while train was moving and stopping, riders getting on and off, it is quite possible most had no idea a rape was going on.

Per Nbc10 Philadelphia. " no proof anyone callously took video of rape on septa train, DA says"

The ambulance boxes I used to stock always had it, but it was mainly there in case EMS accidentally overdosed a patient. Giving it IV works fastest, but the nasal route is best for a layperson

What, no suppositories? :laughing:

Reuters, October 19, established there was an assault.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/philadelphia-subway-riders-witnessed-rape-did-nothing-officials-say-2021-10-19/

“As many as 10 people actually saw some part of the attack on this rider,” Nestel said on Philadelphia radio station WPHT.

and

Surveillance video from the train car showed the woman attempted to rebuff her attacker, repeatedly pushing him away as he initially groped her and ultimately sexually assaulted her, local media reported.

And here’s a name

Fiston Ngoy, 35, faces charges of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, sexual assault and other offenses, local media reported. Ngoy, who listed his address as a homeless shelter in Philadelphia, was held on $18,000 bail and was scheduled for an Oct. 25 court hearing, local media reported.

Googling that name:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Fiston+Ngoy&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS798US798&oq=Fiston+Ngoy&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Oh boy…

He’s an illegal immigrant. The right is going to have a damn field day with this. Fox News is all over it of course.

Of course that’s going to be the narrative here, the other details aren’t important.

Prosecutor says the passengers filmed rape and did nothing narrative is false.

I’ll let the fact get better established here, but I’ll note that in the original reporting it was SEPTA that was out of the gate first and loudest decrying the passengers actions (and inaction). SEPTA obviously has their own liability here if a rape was perpetrated on their system – a fact that, conveniently, nobody is talking about.

From @GreysonCarlisle’s linked article:

Surveillance video shows two passengers holding phones up toward the assault, Stollsteimer said. One of those people provided video to authorities as part of the investigation, he said.

So two people filmed it. And one of them showed it to authorities as part of the investigation. A SEPTA employee instantly recognized that this was sexual assault, and cops, who historically have not been known to just take the victim’s word rape occurred, pulled Ngo off the victim and immediately arrested him. The idea that two people filming it would not have recognized it as a rape seems unlikely, and the fact they neither interfered nor immediately reported it is still troubling.

I’m reserving judgment because it makes me think of the Kitty Genovese case every Psych 101 course talks about. “Woman raped and murdered with dozens of witnesses who did nothing!”

Except it’s been shown that most of the people didn’t actually witness it and thought it was some more minor issue. And a few did contact police. What happened is NYT ran a very inaccurate article that had poor fact checking in the decades after.

I don’t really trust the police to make judgment, considering their colleagues have also refused to intervene in attempted murder on a train.

One thing I haven’t seen, here or elsewhere, is the possibility that children were on the train. I’m guessing not, or we would have heard about it.

They certainly don’t need to see anything like that.

You really want to sound like 'One of the bad things about rape is that children might see it."?

That’s not what I meant at all. NOBODY should ever have to see anything like that, never mind experience it.