Wood Thrush Flames His Neighbor

If you mean the kind of white meat chickens have, neither of those birds has white meat. But if you want to (relavtively) legally eat a wild bird, catch a House Sparrow or a European Starling and humanely kill it. Now pluck and fry.

No. I am not about to allow you to decude incorrectly.

Had your deductions included a simple click to view my profile, you would have been able to learn that I am an annoyed fourteen-year-old amateur ornithologist. But I must wonder what made you think I was a retired agronomist. Agronomy is an application of plant and soil sciences; it has little to do with my irratation of having one less spot at which to watch birds. So Duck Duck Goose, make that an ornithology lecture, please. And how in Hell did you get the idea that I was retired?

If you’ll excuse me, I have to rock in the fetal postition beneath a table, trying to find whatever clue led Zenster to the idea that I was a retired agronomist.

Auntie Pam, et al: I know this isn’t the popular viewpoint. I also appreciate nature etc (check back on my op, you’ll note we go for a totally natural look at our place, probably ticks off our neighbors, too) I get that you didn’t appreciate this guy chopping down the trees etc. “without a thought” (although how you can determine still is a question). Honestly, I do.

But, it still remains. It was his property, personal and private, and while we might not agree with what he did, it WAS HIS RIGHT TO DO IT. Now, when the mayor of my town used tax payer money to buy up a bunch of property on the main drag (they were “adult” book stores and he disapproved), and mowed down all the buildings and trees in order to put up a parking lot that went unused, I thought THAT was a waste - not only of the trees and resources, but of taxpayer $$ and actively worked to get the SOB out of office.

Another example - in our downtown, the buildings are right up next to each other in rows. One of them suffered serious fire damage and was torn down, leaving a very narrow lot, with walls around 3 sides. grass grew, some folks started having picnic lunches there, other folks put out some chairs etc. The owner of the property applied for a building permit. oh, the hue and cry “but it’s such a wonderful little city park, and we need to have a bit of nature here…” Yea, all well and good, but the guy who OWNED the piece had rights, too. Ultimately, the city bought the piece of property and left it as a park, which was a nice comprimise, but it galled me that folks thought THEY had a say in what the guy did with his property. You can have an opinion, but guess what, the owner doesn’t have to care what you think.

Thrush has a right to his opinion and to air it. but his neighbor also had the right to do what he did.

Dear wring,

I don’t think most, if anyone, are seriously arguing that the gentleman in question did not have the right to do what he did on his property. I for one am a firm champion of individual property rights. But IMO this thread is mainly just a flame about how he offended Woody’s sensitivites, and how the “lawn mania” irritates most of us. Myself and others are chiming in with the same or similar feelings of irritation. My revenge-oriented post was intended in a darkly-humorous “good fun” way, and Woody knows that.

didn’t really think he was going to seriously damage the guys lawn.

really.

I see what you’re saying. thanks for the follow up.

Guess I was reacting to what I percieved as the “us vs. them” attitude, and a bunch of other loose thoughts about other threads - no need to get into them here. I’m relatively new to the community, truly wasn’t trying to step on anyone’s sandals. thanks

Probably a cardinal tastes better, being more of a seedeater, but neither bird would have any white meat. Birds that fly a lot, like ducks and songbirds, use those breast muscles for heavy flying duty, so they’re blood-enriched dark meat. Chickens are basically ground-dwelling birds that only fly up into the trees to roost at night, or when danger threatens, so their breast meat is white, like rabbits, who also don’t use their muscles much for flying.

I’m currently reading (browsing through) Escoffier’s cookbook. What that man can do with a round roast of veal and 15 larks stuffed with truffles is amazing.

Probably “agronomy” because of the tree thing. Probably “retired” because hey, that’s what people do when they retire, is take up birdwatching, right?

More years ago than I care to remember, I was also a 14-year-old birdwatcher, walking around the neighborhood with binoculars pressed to my eyes. I share your frustration at having had somebody cut down some of my best birdwatching spots.

I once had a magic spot in the Chicago suburbs where I lived that was, to all intents and purposes, a swamp. A powerful spring came up once upon a time, killed the trees that were there, made a lovely swamp, many years later farmers came and planted cornfields around the swamp. Many years after that, suburban developers came and build houses around the swamp, but could do nothing about it, so forceful was the water’s flow. Every summer they came out with bulldozers and backhoes and drained it, and every winter it filled in again. Meanwhile, I birdwatched. Yellow warblers, black-crowned night herons, once a smoky tern, just stopping by, once I saw a tiny thing that had to be a rail chick, but it disappeared into the cattails before I had a chance to look for an adult. A resident green heron. Empidonax flycatchers that I finally decided, on the basis of calls and habitat, were probably Least. Blue-winged teal and Canada geese, twice a year like clockwork. Mallards and coots, of course. And ENORMOUS goldfish, 2 or 3 feet long. You could see them through the ice in winter, while you were ice skating. Muskrats.

Finally, one summer the developer got his act together, got some truly righteous earthmoving equipment, dug a drainage ditch the size of the Suez Canal, and transformed the swamp into the totally unmagical, sterile Panfish Pond, in Glen Ellyn, at the intersection of Roosevelt Road and Park Boulevard, and you can go and look at it today if you want to break your heart.

Two of my favorite books have always been Freckles and Girl of the Limerlost by Gene Stratton Porter. Let me tell you, I IDENTIFIED with the Limberlost.

End of trip down Memory Lane. We will now resume our regularly scheduled flaming of idiots with chainsaws and backhoes.

Fuck you, Mr. Bigass Developer, wherever you are. This was before “wetlands” or your ass would have been grass and the Nature Conservancy the lawnmower.

Poot. Limberlost.

What the duck, this is sorta off thread but Duck Duck Goose, you really want to check out a book by Harold Magee titled, “On Food and Cooking”. Your precise explanation of why migratory fowl have no white meat was a pleasure to see. Also, your explanation to Wood Thrush as to why I gauged him to be a retired agronomist was quite close to the mark. As for you Wood Thrush, keep up the good clean fun of bird watching. Out here on the West coast in Silicon Valley, even where they’ve paved most everything over, I have a flock of over twenty Western Audubon Flickers. These gorgeous creatures have a breast of zerba striped feathers and a rump of brilliant red. There is also the occasional Yellow Tanager and what not. Waaaay too many mockingbirds though. One of my most memorable sightings was of a flycatcher hovering, almost like a hummingbird, in a swarm of gnats and dining like a champion pie eater. This was up in Mount Lassen park near Mount Shasta. The fact that he was hovering in a shaft of sunlight piercing the forest only made it more magical. In another post I’ll tell you about the hummingbird courting ritual I was lucky enough to have witnessed.