While I’m not incensed by “6 items or less”, I just noticed my local supermarket has it right “6 items or fewer!” Grammar pedants unite!
Any other honorable mentions of someone surprisingly getting something right?
For instance, I always smile when anyone uses a nice going-out-of-fasion plural, like “penes.” (Anecdote: we were discussing this, and I brought up that example, and Nick said “I like ‘penes’.”, but you can’t hear the quotation marks in speach…)
Matt: Mmm… “Penera” How about Penil? Or Pendu? Or Penerontes?
Small Clanger: Sainsbury’s, in Cambridge, England. Unfortunately, I can’t for the life of me remember if it’s always been like that, or it’s been changed, or what other stores do.
I apologize for my ignorance, but I guess that’s partially why I’m here. What is wrong with “6 items or less”? This tells me that the clerk wants customers with items less than, or equal to six. I just don’t see any differences in the two statements.
ParentalAdvisory - “less” would apply to something that’s not quantified. As in, “this pile has less sand than that pile”.
“Fewer” applies when you’ve counted the items: “this pile has fewer grains of sand than that pile”.
As Bill Walsh on The Slotpoints out, “6 items or [fewer than 6 items]” is only one legitimate way to phrase the store’s message. “6 items or [less than that]” is equally valid.
Therefore, he argues – and I agree – that “6 items or less” and “6 items or fewer” are equally correct signs to post over your express lane. (Actually, he thinks the “or fewer” sounds ridiculous, but I wouldn’t say that.)
I’m all for correctness, but there’s often more than one correct answer, especially in a field as wild and woolly as grammar.
I think fewer is just not as nice or as used, even if it is somehow correct.
The flight will take 2 hours or less. vs The flight will take 2 hours or fewer.
Or for a counting rather than measuring example
The bill will be $200 or less. vs The bill will be $200 or fewer.
Sorry but fewer just doesn’t sound correct any more in any such similar uses.
Oh, yeah, I like that site. I did say it doesn’t bother me - but that it was nice to see it done the correcter way
Surely 2 hours or fewer is wrong, as the hours are obviously continuous? $200 is stickier, but I’d be inclined to say something like “I have less money than $200” or “I ave fewer dollars than $200” even if they are wrong.