I should learn to read all the posts.
Then I wouldn’t be redundant.
Or repeat stuff.
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Is she an asshole because she put a bumpersticker on her car? Or because she put a bumpersticker on her car, knowing that her boss supports Bush?
So, expressing an opinion, especially one that goes against that of one’s boss, whether it be on one’s sleeve, bumper or a message board, makes one an asshole.
I wasn’t aware that one has to check with one’s boss before forming and expressing an opinion.
Just who do you work for? And have you run your above post by them first?
Really? So, her getting a new job and Kerry getting some PR (although he squandered it) is inane?
It’s not arbitrary, dispshit. He owns the parking lot.
If you were a soldier wearing ineffective armor with weak points in its protection, you wouldn’t be asking that question. In a democracy, the citizens’ sole protection is their own vigilance. If they’ve been stripped of its ownership, they are thoroughly vulnerable.
Well, did you miss the part in work contracts where it usually states either party may cancel the agreement and part ways at any time?
Yes, you can be fired for pretty much any reason at any time. This can happen because you are free to quit for any reason, at any time. If you want to place restrictions on when or how you can be fired, then that means you also want to place restrictions on when or how you can quit.
Now, myself, if I ever had a boss who drove up with a KKK bumper sticker, I would quit instantly. That is my right. And because it is my right, it is also my bosses right to do the same to me. If I didnt want the right to quit for any reason at any time, then I would be in favor of restricting when I could be fired. But I do, and so Im not.
Exactly right. I would wear the armor until I found something with better protection. I certainly wouldn’t strip it off and trust to good fortune and the kindness of strangers.
More so the latter, though an argument could be made that displaying bumper stickers at all is acting provacatively for the reasons Eve pointed out above.
If you’re on his property accepting his money, then yes, openly disagreeing with him makes you an asshole as well as an unprincipled hypocrite. The fact that he brought up politics in the first place makes him an asshole as well, but that doesn’t give you a free pass to act in kind. You don’t like his politics? Then, by all means, don’t work for him.
You don’t. But you might want to consider how much you value your job if you decide to deliberately antagonize the dude whose signature is on the bottom right of your paycheck.
I work for a Fortune 50 company. I didn’t run the above post by them because:
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I don’t mix personal business with work-related business. Crazy as it sounds, I totally respect the fact that they are paying me to work and not to opine on message boards.
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Company policy prohibits us from displaying any overt religious or political signage in our offices. After 9/11 we were even advised to not go overboard on the pro-America thang lest our nationalism cause our international transferees feel uncomfortable.
You are free to campaign for whatever cause you’d like or for whomever you choose on your own time. However, the second you act as a representative of the company you are expected to act respectfully towards each other or keep your mouth shut.
You make the assumption of an equal power relationship which simply doesn’t exist. A worker who chooses to speak his mind at the risk of losing his job, especially in a Republican ecnomy, is risking one HELL of a lot more than an employer who risks losing one of many employees. Your failure to take this into account renders your point very nearly pointless.
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If you’re on his property accepting his money, then yes, openly disagreeing with him makes you an asshole as well as an unprincipled hypocrite. The fact that he brought up politics in the first place makes him an asshole as well, but that doesn’t give you a free pass to act in kind. You don’t like his politics? Then, by all means, don’t work for him.
Got that? Buss gets to be an asshole, you don’t.
PunditLisa also appears to be entirely oblivious to the fact that in a tight job market people may not be practically free to quit their jobs, whatever the legalities might be. She appears to inhabit the same rarefied place that VoodooChile does, where the job market and so forth mean nothing. Must be nice.
Got it, slave? 'Cause that’s what PunditLisa thinks you are.
Because ownership is everything. Used to be “might is right” now apparently “property is right.”
It seems to me that you’ve been around here long enough to recognize that the above is precisely Liberal’s viewpoint. This is a wheel he is willing to re-invent in every thread he enters, until the day we all roll along on it.
The perseverance alone is certainly worthy of some form of admiration.
Yup. When you are an employee, an imbalance of power exists based on the fact that the one guy (not you) controls the money you would like to be in your pocket. Money = power no matter how fervently you wish it weren’t true.
Honestly, I’m amazed that this is a novel concept to you.
All the more reason that you should not try to deliberately piss off the guy who is employing you. It’s called sucking it up and people do it every single day.
Yes, let’s equate this situation with poor bastards who were forcibly removed from their villages and dragged off to perform manual labor for no pay under threat of death. Good analogy.
The word you’re looking for isn’t “perseverance”. It’s “perseveration”:
The boss is an control freak asshole. He was paying this lady to do work. Period. It is none of his business who she votes for, or whose bumper sticker is on her car. If she was making 9 dollars an hour (or less?) I highly doubt she was a company representative - they get paid a lot more. Some bosses think they have the right to control what their employees do, even away from work. Live in the right neighborhood. Marry the right class of person. Travel in the righ social circles. Drive the right car. Don’t smoke or drink, it may cause you to use health insurance. Go to the right church. Hold the right opinions. A boss should be paying you for the work you do - a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work. At the end of the work day, anything else is none of his damn business. Again, the boss is a major asshole. I’ve interviewed with bosses like that, and then turned down the offer, or cut the interview short. My reason when asked why was “You don’t own me, when I’m off work you’re on MY time”.
I’d think that term presupposes the absence of a stimulus. A thread that contains an implication that a certain person ought to behave in a manner prescribed by another is stimulus enough for Liberal.
I’ll stick with “perseverance.”