Ah…okay. Makes sense, even if it does completely abandon WSG and AB to the twink forces. But that was a foregone conclusion at least three patches ago…
Well, there will be a non-twink division, as well. So that’s all to the good.
“Horde Escort Service” doesn’t bother me too much; I thought it was an appropriate guild name for the lvl 45 player that helped my then-lvl 17 mage clean out that crypt near Brill, where I was finding it completely impossible to pull fewer than three mobs at a time.
Most clever, non-childish, Horde guild name I’ve seen is one on Lightbringer: “Built Horde Tough”.
Posts like this have gotten me both puzzled and curious: Can these mammoths, unlike other mounts, be summoned while inside a dungeon? Y’all are sure making it sound that way. Otherwise it seems it would be a pain in the ass to keep running all the way out of the dungeon and back just to use the mammoth’s vendors/repair functions.
Only some instances. Eye of Eternity and Obsidian Sanctum both count as “outside” for the purposes of mounts. Naxxramas doesn’t. The first part of Ulduar does (up to the point where you get to Deconstructor) but since there’s a repair guy right inside the door, there isn’t much point.
Most other raid instances and dungeon instances are not mount-accessible (off the top of my head the only ones I can think of that are are Ahn’Qiraj, Zul’Aman, Zul’Gurub (raids) and Zul’Farrak and the various Caverns of Time stuff (dungeons).
Heh heh
For most people when they are just starting out, Hogger is the first true real fight they see, and he generally kills the hell out of them.
Someone had a tagline I enjoyed…
LFM Hogger. Meet in Goldshire. No Badiators. Gear check. 
Exactly the reasons why I chose Ret Pally for my first WoW toon. Some of us want to have fun without totally killing ourselves over the correct order of spells/attacks down to an exact science.
Quasi, just get your feet wet with us…start up a new Horde toon on Cairne or transfer you best Horde toon over.
Is there a consensus horde-side equivalent to Hogger? Only thing that comes to mind for me is that goblin warlock guy in north-central Durotar.
Besides PvP it’s also a “this has gone bad, get the hell away” form of travel that you can activate while in combat.
actually, have him grind something up to 55, and make a DK. No need for adaptability, do the right build to get the ghoul pet permanently, and get lots of healing pots, and stat foods and it is the easiest class to get to 80 I have ever played. seriously fantastic for soloing, and decent in a group.
I can’t think of any. Fizzle (the goblin warlock) isn’t elite, like Hogger is. And I can’t think of any sub-lvl-15 elites in any of the Horde newbie zones at all.
Hence the “Deaths from Hogger” stat in the Statistics panel ![]()
Do all the other races have a Hogger analogue? I discovered, some time ago, a lvl 11 elite yeti all by himself in a cave south of Kharanos in Dun Morogh, but I haven’t come across a single quest to kill him. And he’s a lot harder to find than Hogger. I was kind of pissed when my dwarf paladin killed him (it was quite a fight) and the only loot he dropped was 18 copper.
This dwarf had a much better experience with Bjarn, a lvl 12 rare spawn white bear south of the road to the Gol’Bolar Quarry. He spawns right across the road from the Amberstill Ranch, where you buy your ram mounts. I was at lvl 9 when I came across him, and I thought “eh, why not?” and tried to take him down. I attacked, and a moment later two wandering snow leopards joined the fray, and down I went. So I ran back to my corpse/rezzed/ate & drank/recast buffs and tried again, this time making sure to first go around and kill all the snow leopards in the vicinity. I fared better the second time, getting Bjarn down to about 30% health before he killed me. My third attempt failed as well, and I decided I just wasn’t big enough to take him down.
So I wandered across the road and grabbed the Protecting the Herd quest from the rancher’s wife to climb the hill behind the ranch and kill tha yeti up there that had been getting into the herd. The reward turned out to be a green-name 2-handed hammer, the Coldridge Hammer, that did more than 3X the DPS of the white-named 2-hand hammer I already had. “A-ha!” I said, “Let’s try out 'ol Bjarn again!” He was still there, fortunately. After clearing out the handful of snow leopards that had respawned since my last attempt I attacked him again. It was still a rough fight, but with the weapon upgrade I did finally kill him. And he made me glad that I hadn’t wasted gold on a chest armor upgrade at the AH, because he dropped a very nice, green-name, Requires Level 10, mail chest piece.
Son of Arugal might count, though he’s more of a wandering menace (and I don’t believe there are any quests to kill him). And he’s level 20. Though, Silverpine Forest is a level 10-20 zone, so you can still get lowbies getting ganked by him, especially if they aren’t properly aware of their surroundings.
There are a couple level 11-ish rare-spawn elites that wander around Durotar, but given they are rare, most Hordies won’t encounter them.
It’s not sub-15, but those damned Alliance Outrunners (?) are low-20s elites who travel a good distance across the Barrens. You could be picking off zebras for a lvl 10-ish quest out of Crossroads, stray just a bit down the road, and wham, 4 elites to smack you down.
There is a quest for him (or rather, for the meatlocker in his cave). If you stand on the other side of that little valley, directly across from his cave, there’s a path up the mountain behind you (it doesn’t look climbable, but it is). There’s a dwarf up there who gives you a quest to get into the yeti’s cave and get the dwarf’s meat supplies back. It’s possible to do without killing the yeti at all…it makes a regular patrol from the cave down to the end of the valley, and you can wait a decent distance away from the cave mouth for him to leave, then slip in and get the meat out of the chest. You have to be really quick, though, or he’ll be back and then you’ll have to fight him to get out.
Cross the valley to the west (in the direction you would be facing if you came out of his cave), and on the top of the mountain across the way is a quest giver (Dwarf) who wants you to go in, kill said Yeti, and loot the meat locker (chest) in the back.
Curses! I is slow.
I hate them (there’s more than one). That was one of the mobs I came back to after I was all strong and stuff (after lvl 40 or so) and pwned just for revenge. Sneaky bastards…
Oh, I remember them. Another bunch I revenge-pwned after I gained some levels. But I was trying to limit it to newbie zones (to correspond to Hogger).
I’m not sure if it’s quite the same (certainly not as much of a joke amongst players), but Sons of Arugal are the bane of lowbie Hordelings in Silverpine. Arguably worse than Hogger, these buggers are roaming level 20 elites in a level 10+ zone. Evil, evil, evil. They’re spread out over the western side of the zone, I can think of at least 3 individual spawns offhand. The worst of it is, there isn’t even a quest associated with them - they’re just there at the whim of sadistic developers.
ETA: guess I took too long to post, I see the Sons were mentioned already. That’ll teach me to leave the window sitting idle so long, heh.
Well, you do get to take it out against Arugal himself if you do Shadowfang Keep.
Er. The amount of DKs I’ve seen who haven’t figured out their class mechanics would beg to differ on this point. DKs are very different to play from any other class currently in the game – I know it took me a while to figure out how the heck runic power worked, myself. You can sorta compare that to rage, but still rather different.
If Quasi is going to be soloing mostly, I think I’d also suggest ranged DPS as they have a little more wiggle room when fighting mobs, so to speak. Just stay out of melee range and pewpew away, and you have a good head start too if you need to run for it. Locks and hunters have pets that can keep the mob busy, for example. Less healing abilities and more squishy than a ret paladin, though.