World of Warcraft General Discussion

Then I will have to use it simply because it looks awesome!

Well, the faction is named Gnomeregan Exiles. But you’re right, it’s kind of whitewashing, isn’t it? :smiley: I guess technically you can blame it all on Thermaplugg, but he was just being gnomish on a really big scale.

My friend and I were discussing the lore behind each race, and we concluded that the Alliance has more bastards than the Horde. The night elves are purple supremacist bastards, the humans are racist bastards, and the gnomes are careless bastards. On the Horde side, Thrall’s Orcs aren’t as bastard-flavored as the old Horde, neither the Darkspear nor the Taurens are even bastard-coated, and while the Forsaken are HUGE bastards, they have the most justification to be so.

  1. Wiping talents and re-speccing (can’t get to the game right now, wife needs PC): That costs, right? Or do I have to pick up more talent points by levelling again? 'Cause that would suck.:stuck_out_tongue:

  2. What is a WoW “cd-key”? I stumbled on that while looking for a used WoW soundtrack (there aren’t any), and noted that there are “cd-keys” for other games as well. Sounds “illegal”?

  3. What’s the most gryphons y’all have seen in the air at one time (including you)?
    With me , it was 4: 2 going and 2 coming back

  4. Winterhawk, you’re awesome, thanks!

  5. As are you all!:slight_smile:

Thanks

Q

If you go to your trainer, there will be an option to reset your talent points so you can re-spend them again. It’ll cost 1 gold and will go up with each reset. You definitely do not have to level up again.

It’s actually the way some game companies keep their games from being illegally distributed. When you buy a game, there will be a key on the CD case, usually a long string of letters and numbers. You enter this when you install the game to prove that you have a physical copy of the game and aren’t just stealing it online. WoW has them too; you enter the key and it lets you make an account.

If it makes you feel any better, his brother is a dick too.

Okay, I think this is new. I was playing with my dwarf hunter and when I fed my pet I actually tossed the meat to him. I’m pretty sure I never noticed that before.

  1. Power Crystals: WoW Wiki says they can be auctioned, and it appears that they can be “traded” in for equipment? What do you other warriors usually do with them? Can they also be gifted?

  2. Scrimshank Redemption: Pshhhh!:mad: I musta spent an hour in the Chasm, and then 30 minutes in the cave, picked up 12 EXP percentage points, don’t know HOW many kills, and I STILL don’t have that equipment! I did what y’all said: just keep killing and wait for the drop, but I mean dayum! I keep standing at 0 yards and kill everything around me, but zilch! Does anyone know, is it further on in the cave? I may just abandon that one. It’s not that it’s tough, it’s just BORRRING!

  3. Rik, I understand now about the cd key, but if you buy the game and that key is on the package and you enter it when you load the game, why would you then need to purchase another one? 'Cause you lost the original one?

Thanks!

Q

Yeah, it’s new.

Losing the actual CD wouldn’t hurt for WoW. When you enter the key, Blizzard goes, “Oh, okay, you have a legitimate account,” and from then on you’re fine. You could even install the game using someone else’s CD and be okay, because the CD key is tied to the account.

Now, additional keys are needed when you buy an expansion. Let’s say you only bought the basic WoW CD. When you enter your key, that key tells Blizzard you have the basic WoW package, and it will only let you level from 1-60. If you buy Burning Crusade and enter the key you’re given for that, it unlocks the Burning Crusade content, 61-70. Then if you buy Wrath of the Lich King and enter that key, you then have access to that content. And so on and so forth.

It’s very much like a literal key, but once you open the door, the door stays unlocked allowing you to use it as often as you want.

It sounds like you have every reason to be unhappy. If people actually have time to work on all those alts then your guild is either full of people do nothing but play WOW or you aren’t progressing. Once your officers start spending time on alts and start bringing alts to raids, your guild is basically doomed unless you guys are farming hard mode TOC 25 and Algalon (I think there might be a handful of guilds worldwide that are at that point) and there is really nothing left to do but work on alts.

With that said, if you are concerned about getting into instance groups then your guild is probably not doing a lot of raiding anyways and you mkight want to look for another guild.

I see they also reduced the time it takes to build a campfire.

I looked this one up for you on WowHead (it’s always good if you tell us the name of the quest like you did here). I just did that one recently myself. Yes, you have to go down in the cave. You’ll find the equipment sitting on the ground at the end of a short tunnel - it’s not dropped by one of the bugs.

I highly recommend WowHead. If you’re having trouble with a quest, just type in the name of the quest and look at the Comments section. There will be lots of people giving good advice :slight_smile:

There is one set of circumstances in which I consider it’s fine and actually the Decent Thing To Do what you describe, including shared DKP between characters, and it’s when the changes are at the guild’s request. Actually, to me the main benefit of double specs is that now some classes can switch functions without switching characters.

If a player has signed up with, say, a DPS, and gets asked to get out his healer instead, he shouldn’t be penalized for being helpful. I’ve been there, had that done, been royally pissed. The main reason I was never able to develop any brand loyalty to the guild where I’ve been for the last year (and which just got absorbed by another) is being subjected to that, spoilering so I don’t bore you since anyway it’s a sideline.

Our officers announce we’re merging with another guild. It’s one of those “anybody from your guild is welcome so long as they ask within a week” deals.

I move over and the GM says “a hunter? but we have enough hunters, we have two! I don’t want any hunters!” Our ex-GM says “she’s part of the package deal, guess we’ll go back to the old tabard.” “No no! Do you have any alts?”

So my “main” officially became, not my hunter, but my warrior, as the new guild had been short on tanks. I’m happily OTing along when we acquire a paladin who can tank, tank or tank, so suddenly I’m asked to bring the hunter. Items drop that the hunter wants, they get given to other people because “he’s been coming longer.” Eh, he’s been in the guild less time than I have and in less guild runs that I have, but I was tanking - at your request! And by the way, that’s a gun, I’m a hunter and he’s a DPS warrior…

One day the GM/MT isn’t in and the run is led by exGM, who asks me to bring my mage in just long enough to make a table, then switch back. No problem, after everybody has a few stacks of cookies I switch back.

The GM/MT suddenly realizes I have a mage! So now it’s either “bring the mage” or, if Mr Paladin Who Can Only Palatank But Knows More About Every Class Than The Guy Who Programmed Them isn’t around, “bring the tank.”

Meanwhile, my hunter is the guild’s main source of both primals and ore. Which don’t go towards making armor for my tank, because “you almost never tank anyway.” Then when I stop putting stuff in the bank, I am told off. I respond that I’m working on armoring the tank up and the GM has to Shut The Heck Up With An Audible Snap.

Half the time I’ve been in the guild I’ve been there because the immense majority of my friends were there. The officers, I would happily have turned into meatballs!

But “I’ve already gotten everything I needed from here, so now I’m going to bring a character that’s less useful for the group, getting most of the class-appropiate stuff that drops because either everybody else already has it or I can DKP my way to the top of the heap”? Nope. That’s not kosher.

I got seriously pissed off at an alliance back in the day when I was a more active raider … I played a lock, demon spec. I was very specifically told by the alliance leader [who was guild leader of one of the other guilds in the alliance] that I could not roll on core mats because 1-they were needed to make armor for the tanks and 2-I would never get thorium brotherhood faction enough to get the cloth armor patterns without their assistance, so I would never need the core materials.

So wrong on so many levels. Firstly, I could stockpile them and sell them at the AH to pay my raiding costs. I may not be in plate, but there are definitely costs involved for everybody that raids. Second, never tell me I can’t accomplish something. It took me serious solo grinding and PUGging but I got the faction and bought the patterns for my cloth armor.

Why do tanks assume that nobody else in the party needs good gear? I don’t care if you have an insane amount of HP and armor, damage does occur to the others in the raid groups …

And hard core raiders need to get their heads out of their asses … when farming MC because all the hard core ones have all the cookies they want, let the lesser players in for some gear … you already freaking have it, and guilds are to help all the members, not just the hard core ones. Maybe rotate in one raid group in the 25 of non hard core players, so they can have the rolls for the good gear, not your alts. Once everybody in the guild has their mains geared up, then start on the alts.

[obviously talking about the original game … butit can still apply to WotLK]

Grats to all that have earned it.

Mining in EPL is tiresome, I tried again last night and saw so many other players I found about 8 nodes in two hours and 3 of those were Rich Thorium which is too high skill level. Any suggestions for other zones? I have looked up a couple of mining guides and one suggests Winterspring??

Also any Carbonite users here? With my new laptop I have been experimenting with addons and I like Carbonite so far apart from one thing that involves the minimap. Nodes found are in some sort of relative position to my character so if I spin round the nodes spins while the map stays still oriented to north. Any ideas how I can force the nodes to appear stationary on the map at the exact location of the node?

No, a lot of those gripes actually are direct results of the bad old days. Back in the era of Molten Core, all you actually needed to defeat most fights were tanks with sufficient gear, and enough healers alive to keep them up. That was it. There were no enrage timers or burst checks that required that the rest of the raid be competent, or even there. Those jokes about the hunter that was watching TV through the entire raid? They weren’t just jokes.

Now, compound this with the way that there existed virtually no tank gear outside of raiding or raid mat crafting, and you had the reason why everything was hoarded for tanks. Everyone else could get reasonable DPS gear or FR gear out of Dire Maul or BRD, but tank gear had to come from raiding. If the tanks didn’t have the gear, you simply wouldn’t be killing the boss. If a random warlock out of your 30 DPS was a little low on FR, nobody cared.

Then we get to the part where a boss would drop 4 pieces of gear for 40 people, and half of it was class-restricted on top of that. Almost anybody could do MC weekly for more than a year and still not have everything they’d like out of the place.

Those days are long gone all around, and good riddance.

Are you still getting skill-ups from mithril? WPL has at least ten small thorium and a buttload of mithril. You have to keep to mostly the northern mountain edges. There are also a few nodes along the river between WPL and EPL, and a couple along the north shore of the lake that Scholomance sits on.

There’s also some small thorium in Hinterlands, but that’s mostly mithril and unless you’re really desparate, it’s not very efficient (i.e., you’ll be doing more traveling than mining). I just did my mining up to 300 last week, so this is all recent memory for me. :slight_smile:

Mithril is grey for me unfortunately. How long did it take you to get from 240 to 300?

So I did yet another round of tourney dailies last night, and burned through Feralas for Tauren and Darkspear rep. Today or whenever I next do my dailies, I’ll get my 25 valiant marks and make Champion of the Trolls; with my hoarded Champion’s Writs I’ll be well over Exalted there, and get my Ambassador’s title.

I’m about 17k rep short of exalted with the Argent Crusade for the Crusader title. Time to start doing troll patrols I guess.

BTW, is there any use for Champion’s Writs aside from buying rep with the five base factions?

Wait, huh? Mithril goes grey at 275. Rich Thorium is minable at 275. One of these statements is inaccurate.