World of Warcraft General Discussion

[Mister_Rik]

@Shot_From_Guns

Fun fact of the weekend: If your Priest is transformed into a Goblin pirate, you **punch **people with PW:Fort. So full of win.

I was rather surprised when my gnome rogue was transformed into a goblin pirate … a goblin pirate as tall as the human innkeeper

Agreed. Be sure to keep an eye on Trade chat in the major cities–that’s how most people hook up. (E.g., “WTT Pirate, Ghost, or Leper Gnome for Wisp, PST.”)

Unfortunately, all I see in Trade on Lightbringer is people trying to sell their wand charges. My bank alt has gotten three — count 'em, three — Ninja wands. Those are the only wands she’s gotten. I stood in SW and /yelled that I had 15 Ninja charges that I would use free on anybody who wanted/needed it, and only got one taker.
Sunday night my belf pally was killing Warmaul ogres in Nagrand, and one of them dropped a Pumpkin Bag I played her for several hours, and got to Trick or Treat several times. Word of advice: before you Trick or Treat, make sure your bags aren’t full! I ToT’d right before I logged out and went to bed, not noticing that my bags were completely full, and apparently I would have gotten a “treat”, but there was nowhere to put it so I got nothing … and yet the 60 minute delay timer still kicked in, so I couldn’t just go sell stuff and try again. :mad:

A couple things I learned while touring Nagrand:

• If you’re flying, and you want to say something in guild chat, remember to hit <Enter> before you start typing. Especially if the first letter you want to type is the same as your “Dismount” keybinding (in my case, Shift+G). Witness the following account:

“Getting back to … AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!” splat

• Keep in mind which faction your current toon belongs to. When you were playing an Alliance toon the last time through Outland, but now you’re playing a Horde toon, it’s good to be aware when you’re getting a little too close to Telaar (geez those guards hit hard).
Weird sighting of the day: I was running a toon from Goldshire to Lakeshire, and in the middle of the road between Goldshire and Eastvale Logging Camp, I found the corpse of a Firegut Ogre I can’t remember if those guys live in Duskwood or Burning Steppes, but either way, what was it doing there?

[Words_on_the_Interweb]

@Quasimodem

:smack:

Thanks, Words! I do that already when Wolkie’s going UP a hill, or I don’t like his positioning.

Didn’t EVEN think I could do it to see what’s ahead for us!:smack:

When I first started playing, I only wanted to play in first person because I’d always played games where that was optimal (and was better for immersion in the game world). I spent a lot of time trying to tank, my group hollering (on vent) about an add I couldn’t see, because it was behind me, among other things. I also was used to keyboard movement, and spent a lot of time running at strange angles across (and off of) bridges because the keyboard in WoW doesn’t offer very fine movement control. It took a while to get used to third person play, and the mouse movement and camera angles.

[Quasimodem]

Thanks, Words on the Interweb!

Thanks to you and all my other WoW “Buds”, I am closing in on BC!

I have already started using your suggestions, and they have helped a lot to keep “Fools (from) Rush (ing) In”

If you get my “drift”?

Anyway, now at 74% on the way to Level 54, and we’re kicking some serious ass!

One thing I have noticed (and would someone comment on this, please?): it seems like Wolkie’s “Wepps” (weapons) are “available quicker” now?

What I mean to say is that those circular things around the weapons boxes make his weapons appear faster, and therefore he can kill faster?

Is that because I’m a 53 or did I pick up a friendly spell?

Also, I lost my darts! No idea how that happened, because I keep Wolk’ in DEFENSIVE stance all the time, thanks to SFG!

Any ideas?

Thanks, Kids!

Quasi

[Words_on_the_Interweb]

Quasi, I’m not quite sure what you mean about the weapons appearing faster; do you mean the abilities on your hotbar seem to be available more quickly (the buttons you press to do special attacks)? If that’s the case, then it is probably because he is generating Rage more quickly; Rage is generated by three things:

1. Wolkie hits and damages a target, and gains rage;
2. Wolkie gets hit by a hostile target, and gains rage;
3. Part of the Protection talent spec allows Wolkie to gain rage when he avoids an incoming attack (dodge, parry, shield block).

Rage powers Warrior abilities; the faster you generate Rage, the more often you can use your abilities. There is still a “cooldown” on some abilities (meaning the game will only allow you to use those abilities every so often); an example is Shield Slam, an ability that can be used every 6 seconds, if Wolkie has enough Rage stored up to use it. But in the case of abilities like Devastate (an ability in the Protection talent spec), it can be used back-to-back as long as Wolkie has enough Rage to power the ability.

Regarding your darts, the only thing I can think of is that you might have accidentally sold them… thrown items don’t get consumed when you use them anymore, so you wouldn’t be able to “run out” of them. Or have I misunderstood, and you mean that the ability is not on your bar anymore, but Wolkie still has the darts item?

[Quasimodem]

Words,

Thanks for the explanation regarding Wolkie’s rage.

He picked up something called “G.N.E.R.D.S” which is supposed to increase his defensive powers for 14 days. Could that be the reason that my action bar is quicker now?

Re: the darts. There’s no box for them anymore.

Thanks!

Quasi

[Nava]

@Shot_From_Guns

More like “Only, Uh, as Many of You as Have the Quest at the Moment” these days. And it’s not **completely **needless–it’s the only way to get that epic Cooking recipe, for example, if you’re an insane completist like me.

There’s no such thing as an insane completist, same as there is no such thing as too many alts.

Well, ok, having one of each race/class combo would probably be too much.

My main’s name is Corazon, which means Heart (it should be Corazón but I left out the tilde for ease of typing). Some of my guildies have taken to occasionally calling me The Great Forge since I became Corazon of Ironforge

[aruvqan]

@Words_on_the_Interweb

When I first started playing, I only wanted to play in first person because I’d always played games where that was optimal (and was better for immersion in the game world). I spent a lot of time trying to tank, my group hollering (on vent) about an add I couldn’t see, because it was behind me, among other things. I also was used to keyboard movement, and spent a lot of time running at strange angles across (and off of) bridges because the keyboard in WoW doesn’t offer very fine movement control. It took a while to get used to third person play, and the mouse movement and camera angles.

Holy shit on a stick, get a trackman trackball, amazingly fine control. Thumb controls direction, holding 2 mouse buttons down makes me run … saves wear and tear on the keyboard too. [well i play on a laptop] and the trackball gives you very fine directional control, and the wheel gives you change of camera from first to third as needed. Lets you pop hotkeys with your left hand =)

[Ferret_Herder]

@Quasimodem

He picked up something called “G.N.E.R.D.S” which is supposed to increase his defensive powers for 14 days. Could that be the reason that my action bar is quicker now?

Actually, the candy will stay around for 14 days of playing time. If you eat it, it has that effect for maybe an hour. It won’t change how your action bar works, though.

[MindWanderer]

I’ve ran through some more quests the past few days on my priest, some were pretty cool.

I did the Gymer quest yesterday, which was very confusing at first, but it was a lot of fun causing mayhem and trying to survive when overwhlmed by hordes of foes. Took me half the fight to figure out what the whole “Gymer Needs lighting cloud” thing was about. It was another close battle, and I lost Gymer once.

I did some cool Icecrown quests. My favorite was defending the big Alliance banner. My recently acquired Shadow Aoe spell was very useful and cool against the massive hordes that attack in this quest. I almost died when one of the elites decided to pick on me, but I was able to switch out of shadow and heal back up. Another fun quest. I know Northrend has a lot of vehicle quests, and they are fun, but sometimes its fun to do something special with your own class abilities, like the banner quest.

I did make a funny mistake in Icecrown, I accidentally landed on the Horde skyship instead of the Alliance skyship. I almost got owned before I jumped off , and used levitate. The funny part was levitate sent me right into another big group of enemies and I died. I laughed after that one.

I also ran Arathi Basin and was surprised that it was filled with mostly low 70s people. Its a 70-79 zone, which is why I went in. I like AV better but I knew I would be owned by the 80s in there. As a 77, I was doing very well, and our team just dominated, which is a weird feeling, I’ve rarely been on an alliance side pvp team that crushed the Horde like we did. Part of it was probably that we had more high 70s players. I have two talents that give cool CC powers for removing weapons and surpressing magic, so I used those a lot. I completely forgot about Mind Control but I’d like to try that in PVP some time. I suppose the reason there weren’t many 79s in PVP is that 80 is so close by and everyone wants to jump into the endgame at that point.

I also started a Night Elf Warrior that I plan to train more once I get my priest to 80. I get the feeling that the fun part of playing a warrior is later on. Right now its a bit of a grind, but doing the melee thing is fun and different from playing dot and channel on my priest.

[jayjay]

@Quasimodem

Also, I lost my darts! No idea how that happened, because I keep Wolk’ in DEFENSIVE stance all the time, thanks to SFG!

Any ideas?

Do you mean that your darts aren’t on your character sheet in the missile weapons slot at all, or that your darts won’t throw when you hit the Throw button?

If the former, I have no idea…you may have accidentally removed them to your bags and sold them.

If the latter…have you been repairing your thrown when you repair your armor? Ever since Wrath came out (I think), Thrown weapons work like armor as far as usefulness goes. Rather than “running out” of throwing knives or darts or whatever, they gradually degrade with use. You can replenish by repairing them at any vendor that shows an anvil icon on mouseover (usually armor or weapon vendors (including bowyers)).

[martu]

As ever Gratz to all.

Sagan is now my main focus (all alts rested) while I continue on the march to 80. Currently a bar or so away from 67 and questing in Blade’s Edge which is a lovely looking zone but that can go for all of Outland I have seen so far. My only gripe recently is on the models used for shields (or one in particular), I got an upgrade last night Iron Oak Shield which looks dull frankly and it replaced this wonderful looking shield King’s Bulwark which I only had for about a week’s worth of play. It’s a pity.

[Death_of_Rats]

@Ferret_Herder

Actually, the candy will stay around for 14 days of playing time. If you eat it, it has that effect for maybe an hour. It won’t change how your action bar works, though.

And for a cheap and easy Hallows End achievement, pop into a BG and eat your G.N.E.R.D.s (you only need to eat one at a time.) You will get Honorable Kills for anything you or anyone else in your group kills. 50 kills while under the G.N.E.R.D. effect gets you an achievement. Takes maybe 5 mins in WSG or AV which generally have the most killing.

[Skammer]

@MindWanderer

I completely forgot about Mind Control but I’d like to try that in PVP some time.

I haven’t done a ton of PvP, but I’ve used MC a couple of times in BGs and it’s fun when it works. Tossing people off the edge of the lumbermill in AB is hysterical if you can pull it off.

My most glorious use of Mind Control was one day in Tirisfal Glades. I had just jumped on the arriving zeppelin to go to Org when a warrior of similar level jumps on behind me and challenges me to a duel. I accepted, and as soon as the timer started, I cast MC on him and threw him off the side of the zep. Then I /waved as we took off.

[Bosstone]

@Skammer

My most glorious use of Mind Control was one day in Tirisfal Glades. I had just jumped on the arriving zeppelin to go to Org when a warrior of similar level jumps on behind me and challenges me to a duel. I accepted, and as soon as the timer started, I cast MC on him and threw him off the side of the zep. Then I /waved as we took off.

Bahaha. I’d say poor bastard, but random /duelers get nothing but contempt from me. That’s awesome.

[Skammer]

Attention fellow Burning Dogs:

I’ve finally wised up and scheduled our Wednesday night instance on the in-game calendar. Please sign up if you can join us this week! We can take a vote on where to go; our choices are BRD (for the unfinished quests there), Dire Maul-East (ditto) or Dire Maul-West. My preference is DMW, for the sake of something different and some new loot.

[Words_on_the_Interweb]

@Quasimodem

He picked up something called “G.N.E.R.D.S” which is supposed to increase his defensive powers for 14 days. Could that be the reason that my action bar is quicker now?

The GNERDS are like the scrolls you pick up that give you Stamina or Agility or some other stat; you have to right-click on them to “eat” them, and then you get the effect listed on the candy. The 14 day duration means that after 14 days they will disappear from your inventory (think of it like an expiration date on food). GNERDS won’t make your action bar “quicker” (sorry, but I’m still not sure what you mean with that phrasing). ETA: somehow missed Ferret Herder’s near-identical comment on this, sorry.

Re: the darts. There’s no box for them anymore.

If you are staying in Defensive stance, it sounds like one of two things happened:

1. You accidentally removed the “throw” ability from your hotbar. If that’s the case, press “P” (by default) to open your ability book. Look for the ability for “throw”, left click, drag it to your hotbar. Incidentally, if you are changing stances (Battle Stance, for example), you will need to put the “throw” ability on the hotbar for that stance.

2. You accidentally “paged” your hotbar; there is a feature of the game that allows the main hotbar (the one between the two eagles on the very bottom) to change pages, like turning the pages in a book. It is possible to disable this feature, but I don’t remember how offhand, and the servers are down right now. Regardless, there are little arrow buttons on one end of the hotbar that will let you change the page of the hotbar; holding down the SHIFT key while using the mouse scrollwheel will also cause the hotbar page to change.

@aruvqan

Holy shit on a stick, get a trackman trackball, amazingly fine control. Thumb controls direction, holding 2 mouse buttons down makes me run … saves wear and tear on the keyboard too. [well i play on a laptop] and the trackball gives you very fine directional control, and the wheel gives you change of camera from first to third as needed. Lets you pop hotkeys with your left hand =)

Thanks, but I started playing WoW several years ago, and finally switched to a Nostromo game pad + mouse turning in early BC (I was stubborn about learning a new control setup, heh). Trackballs don’t historically work well for me, although I suppose I’d eventually get used to them and stop spinning around like an idiot, I’m pretty happy with my current setup.

@jayjay

If the latter…have you been repairing your thrown when you repair your armor? Ever since Wrath came out (I think), Thrown weapons work like armor as far as usefulness goes. Rather than “running out” of throwing knives or darts or whatever, they gradually degrade with use. You can replenish by repairing them at any vendor that shows an anvil icon on mouseover (usually armor or weapon vendors (including bowyers)).

I don’t believe this is accurate any longer; thrown items no longer have durability, and I’m fairly certain they’re “unending” ammunition (with a change in the works for other projectiles as well). Regardless, using the repair all function at a repair NPC would replenish the charges along with repairing the rest of your gear (there’s no need to repair them manually).

[Darwins_Finch]

@MindWanderer

I did make a funny mistake in Icecrown, I accidentally landed on the Horde skyship instead of the Alliance skyship. I almost got owned before I jumped off , and used levitate. The funny part was levitate sent me right into another big group of enemies and I died. I laughed after that one.

I did that once when I first got to Icecrown. I (my main is a Horde druid) landed on the Alliance skyship, whereupon everyone on board starting whooping on me. I decided leaping off was the better option, which I did. Luckily, I left combat just before I hit the ground, and immediately switched to flight form, thus preventing death-by-splatter. But man, was it close (I was already mostly dead from the beating on the ship before I jumped).

[Yeticus_Rex]

@Bosstone

Going back to Yeti’s quotes from Elitist Jerks, which I somehow missed seeing all weekend:I completely forgot about Divine Strength. I know Strength benefits from BoK and AP doesn’t, but otherwise I’ve usually shrugged about the difference, since ilevel-equivalent gems are usually something like +16 Strength or +32 AP, so I never worried about it too much. But factoring in Divine Strength, Strength definitely wins every time.

Definitely. Bookmark the Elitist Jerks Paladin Threads, because you will definitely refer to it on a frequent basis when new gear, patches and hotfixes change the dynamics for palladins.

Talent Specs and Talent Options will also help on maximizing your DPS.

[Skammer]

I finally noticed on Wow-heroes.com that they have a hit rating calculator. Very handy! As a healer I never really paid much attention to hit rating, but at least I have a target now for my Shadow dps spec. I normally only go shadow for sloloing, but last week I actually got to go dps in a Heroic UK run.

[Shot_From_Guns]

Doing runs for gear for my Unhittable set last night, we did a quick Maly kill so I could finally get my neck from that quest reward (from the key). That little baby, gemmed with +20 Def, bumped me up about two full percentage points of avoidance. Coming up on 95%, and I need to get to 102.4%. :finger whirling in the air:

@Bosstone

I’ve been an irresponsible druid, though; I have yet to do any of the class quests save the Bear Form. I really hate the Aquatic Form quests, since I absolutely refuse to go near deep water.

Check your trainer–IIRC, they got rid of the quest requirement for those forms and they’re just trainable now.

@Quasimodem

So when I finisch in Azshara I’m heading back to Burning Steppes. I just hope I don’t run afoul of those ?? guys. I hate them sumbitches, SFG! (My drunken, dirty mouth sailor-friend!:D)

Oh yeah, and watch out for the big giants who wander the coastline… They’re some of the few wandering Elites left in the old world.

@Mister_Rik

I was rather surprised when my gnome rogue was transformed into a goblin pirate … a goblin pirate as tall as the human innkeeper

Seriously! Huuuuuuge Goblins.

Unfortunately, all I see in Trade on Lightbringer is people trying to sell their wand charges.

You might be SOL, then, if everybody else already has theirs. Have you tried a post on the realm forum?

If you’re flying, and you want to say something in guild chat, remember to hit <Enter> before you start typing. Especially if the first letter you want to type is the same as your “Dismount” keybinding (in my case, Shift+G).

I probably shouldn’t laugh, but I did. Hard. Oh my. If it makes you feel any better, I’ve sent plenty of tells like “Yeah, and did I mention 3333444222333” as I try to hit ability keys in the middle of fights. :smack:

Keep in mind which faction your current toon belongs to.

You’d think this would get easier as the years go by, but no. Oh no.

I can’t remember if those guys live in Duskwood or Burning Steppes, but either way, what was it doing there?

Someone probably kited it over there as a joke.

@Quasimodem

One thing I have noticed (and would someone comment on this, please?): it seems like Wolkie’s “Wepps” (weapons) are “available quicker” now?

Do you mean the line that kind of sweeps around the icon, showing it cooling down? You might have picked up a faster weapon, which would make your autoattack go faster. Or you might be doing more damage, which gives you more Rage, which makes your abilities light up sooner.

Also, I lost my darts!

Sounds like you accidentally moved the icon off your action bar. Because I gave you a macro for it, here’s what you want to do:
[ul][li]Type /macro[/li][li]In the macro window that pops up, look for the one that’s called something like Rnged (IIRC, the icon should look like a dart or an arrow in a target)[/li][li]Drag that icon back down onto your action bar[/ul][/li]
If you like, I can show you how to lock your action bars so you don’t do that. (I keep mine locked all the time, after many repetitions of accidentally moving abilities in the middle of fighting.)

@MindWanderer

I also started a Night Elf Warrior

Woohoo! Best race/class combo ever, if I do say so myself.

@Skammer

I haven’t done a ton of PvP, but I’ve used MC a couple of times in BGs and it’s fun when it works.

My pocket healer has a video up of him PvPing on his Undead SPriest back in the day, tossing many an unsuspecting Alliance character over the side of a cliff as he defends an AV Graveyard. Go search YouTube for the user jcapone3rd and you should find it, if you’re curious.