Everything falls down when they’re wounded hard. Destroy a zombie’s capacity to exert mechanical force by cutting a ligament or withering it with incendiaries and it doesn’t matter whether it’s still animate or not, it’s not coming to get you.
I’ve only read the Zombie Survival Guide, not World War Z.
People don’t fall when they’re shot because of the momentum transfer of the bullet. They fall because of systems in their body being disrupted by its passage. Systems that don’t exist in a zombie. Obviously if you smash a femur it’ll fall. But it’ll get up and limp after you immediately.
And two dozen rounds in its torso aren’t likely to do anything but make it limp a little or have slightly worse range of motion for its torso. Destroying an arm destroys an arm. Shredding a leg muscle slows it down, not stops it. Destroying a leg means it falls and drags itself to you.
A normal soldier carries around 200 rounds. How many zombies you gonna stop with 200 rounds when you’re fighting them like people?
You should. The Battle of Yonkers section goes over these issues. It’s about how the military tried to make a stand against the zombies coming out of New York City and finding out how ineffective its conventional tactics are against zombies.
You shatter bones and/or sever muscles and that part doesn’t work any more. Pain and fear don’t enter into it. Brooks ignored that as do the makers of virtually every zombie movie I’ve ever seen. This is exactly why I don’t much care for zombie stuff. I’ve done all the suspension of disbelief I care to do by accepting that the dead rise to feast on the living. If we are going to just wholesale ignore the real world, why not make the zombies fly and shoot lightning out of their dicks too?
You should reread this thread, no one is arguing that zombies are immune to bullets. They however can be shot hundreds of times before you hit their brain or shatter a long bone.
My favorite parts of the book were the first few chapters, where people were shown in denial or actively abetting the zombie apocalypse in the hopes of short term profit. This seems very applicable to a lot of real world problems. The latter bits weren’t as good, a lot of the insanity didn’t seem too plausible.
This movie looks like it might be an entertaining big budget action flick, but it looks like it has nothing to do with the book. I wish Hollywood wouldn’t name movies after unrelated books, but you can’t fight the profit motive.
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Sure, if you sever a ligament then the zombie will fall down. Then it will start to crawl towards you. Cut it in half and the same thing happens. Blow off it’s leg, or an arm, and the same thing. Most animals, when they are hit, will fall down due to the pain and perhaps blood loss…and fear (either their own fear, or the fear of seeing members of their pack or whatever go down). Zombies don’t have any of those weaknesses. Only a shot directly to the brain will work.
Again, you have to accept the basic logic and premise here…as with any fiction. If you don’t, well, that’s fine. But within the context of that logic, the World War-Z books are consistent with that internal logic.
They are very different books, but the basic premise is similar (with some slight variations…in neither case do we have super fast zombies able to do stuff like climb stairs or structures). In both cases, suppression fire would do next to nothing to stop a large zombie attack because zombies don’t suppress under fire…they walk right through it. Oh, sure, you’ll kill some…maybe a lot if you are lucky with the head wounds…but it won’t matter, because the rest won’t stop due to wounds or fear, which is the primary way suppression fire actually works against rational humans. Same reason why a single sniper can hold down an entire company sometimes, historically.
I did read it. There was a lot of angsting from fanboys who are already convinced that the movie is going to piss all over the holy book.
Gee. Can I go see this movie with you? You sound fun.
He sounds a lot more fun than those already deciding the movie is trash based on a trailer and fast zombies.
Wow, I really liked the trailer - high-budget zombie movie for the potential win. I liked the book but never really thought it was filmable, since you’d either have to endure a narrator temporally and physically separated from the action, or instead rewrite the story and find a way to embed him. It looks like they went for the latter. I can live with that.
If that was directed at me, I never said the movie would be trash. I’ll most likely go see it. It won’t be World War-Z though…more like the Starship Troopers version. Hopefully better than that adaptation though…
Goddamn Zs whacked us, Johnny.
Can I sit between both of you?
I’m disappointed it isn’t going to be like the book. I so very wanted to see the Catacombs filmed.
I’ll probably see this because it does look like a sweet zombie movie. But, it isn’t the World War Z I wanted to see.
Finally saw the trailer… not half bad…The weird swarming zombies kind of put me off though.
Those zombies look like the biggest piece of shit this side of I Am Legend. I’m anticipating an awful film.
Jesus, you guys talk as though this were Star Trek.
You can’t travel faster than light.
You break a zombie leg with a bullet, it can’t mechanically function.
Perhaps they can crawl quickly.
You’ll have to forgive this angsting fanboy if I can’t remember the part of World War Z where a photogenic family gets stuck in a New York traffic jam that’s caused by ZOMBIES FROM NOWHERE and then the government recruits the husband to save the world.
This is the equivalent of making a movie about a high school soccer team that gets sent back in time to medieval days and is sent on a quest to kill an evil wizard, and calling it “The Lord of the Rings”.
Yes, they can crawl quickly. And even with a detached head they can bite until the brain is destroyed.