Still, I can’t imagine any judge who is an position to be elevated to the Supreme Court not being familiar with the nastiness of the Bork/Thomas hearings.
I blame Alito.
“Honey, you want to sit behind me? That’s great, love to have you, but you do understand that in the most honorable vetting process, there’s still going to be a little probing into sensitive areas, don’t you? I might get asked about some whackjob organization I was a quasi-member of when I was a kid, or some nonsense your loony father spouted off about once upon a time, or some stocks I owned, or the time I sold that Camaro to the guy who claimed I didn’t warn him about that nasty problem wtih the brakes, or who knows what, and it’s all good. That’s part of the deal, it’s like going to the dentist when he probes with that sharp metal thingy, you know? He’s just looking for problems and it hurts a bit for a short time. You don’t start weeping at the dentist’s, do you, darling? Of course not, because you’re a big girl now, and it would embarrass me and make me look like a weak and pathetic limpdick motherfucker if you made a big fuss over this. You understand that? Good. Now give daddy a big kiss.”
In that case, then why are Lindsey Graham et al blaming it on the Democrats’ “abuse?” How about this from Orrin Hatch:
So, is Hatch an asshole for saying that? He flat out claimed that Alito was being"mistreated." Is that not bullshit. If I’m a dick for thinking that her crying was a reaction to questioning then what do you say to those who claim the Democrats were “abusing” or “mistreating” her husband?
I will say that these are fair points and I’ll withdraw judgement of the wife. I apologize for calling her a cow and I had no basis for questioning her sincereity.
Having said that, the comments by the likes of Graham and Hatch are still complete bullshit and they should be called on it.
First off, Sampiro, that was hilarious.
Alright, next, Diogenes, the fact that the committee’s agressive questioning was appropriate, justified and expected places no emotional requirements on Ms. Bomgardner. Let me try to illustrate my point with a personal anecdote:
When I was young, I cut my left thumb pretty deep. My parents took me to the doctor’s office, where the doctor had to numb the wound before he could stich it up. The doctor had to inject the anesthetic directly into the wound, and it hurt like hell. I was screaming and a nurse had to hold me still so the doctor could work. Years later, my father told me that he’d had to leave the room until after the doctor had given me the shot and I’d calmed down. Even though Dad knew that what the doctor was doing was necessary, he was mad as hell at him for causing me pain.
For me, the real question is:
This was my thought process upon hearing this story this morning:
"Crying in front of a national audience? Ugh, how embarrassing. Poor form.
Republicans took advantage of her emotions to say that the Dems were big meanies? Ugh, how childish. Poor form.
Wait, why was she there in the first place? If my husband was going before a riled-up confirmation committee, I’d stay the hell away so I wouldn’t have to watch him get attacked and risk breaking into tears in front of a national audience. Well, unless he really wanted me there for moral support, then I guess I’d go. Oh . . . "
Unlike Diogenes, though, I’m not wholeheartedly convinced that my baseless suppositions are undeniable truth.
There are lots of good reasons for overturning Roe. Even though I support a woman’s right to choose, and (very grudgingly) support the Roe decision, I’m not so blinded by partisanship that I can’t recognize that.
“Honey, listen, I’ve just agreed to go fifteen rounds with Smokin’ Joe Frazier in his prime–I know I’ll get beat up pretty bad, but I really want to do this, I want to make the money, I’d love to get this shot at a national audience, it’s a once-in a-lifetime dream, and after it’s over, we’ll be set for life. But I know you hate violence, so I’m going to ask you to stay home. You can visit me in the hospital afterwards, of course–I’ve already booked a room and some ER time at Mount Sinai–but I don’t think you should watch the fight. Is that OK with you?”
Hey, I’m with you on the thin skinned part. I’m with you on the media playing it up. It’s the first part of your post with the “grow a pair” and the “likely staged” part that get me. It’s over the top. She is his wife. She’s not likely to be sitting in the distance some eight miles away from him. She’s going to want to be as close as possible. I’m fairly certain the crying was genuine simply because it’s an easier explanation than a staged weep-a-thon to make her husband seem sympathetic.
That said, I hope she doesn’t read this thread. It’d probably kill her.
Read my last post. I’ve backed all the way off of the wife.
Good show. I read the OP and was all ready to be all, shut up, Diogenes! Then I read Dewey’s post and was all, Well said, Dewey! But now you’ve apologized and backed off of the shutuppable parts, and all that’s left is to agree that Graham and Hatch are being stupidheads over this.
Daniel
Yes, and because the couple couldn’t figure out for 100% certain in advance that the wife was going to cry, it’s Alito’s fault. :rolleyes:
Listen: IT’S NO ONE’S FAULT! The lady started crying. BFD. It isn’t the first time someone did that in public and it won’t be the last. Let’s hope she chalks it up to experience and learns from it instead of having a bunch of armchair quarterbacks overanalyzing a simple public sobbing event. And even if she knew she was going to cry, I don’t blame her for wanting to witness what might be her husband’s most significant career milestone.
Diogenes: Good on you for seeing the light. Now, quit watching so much FoxNews!!!
I’m picturing a court room where a man standing trial for murder. The prosecuter starts getting very dramatic when he takes the stand in a very Law & Order kind of way. After laying his case, he starts in with the “You killed him, didn’t you? You KILLED him! You’re a MURDERER, isn’t that true?”
The courtroom gets silent when Dio stands up, points accusingly at the perp’s wife in the audience and shouts, “Stop crying, you cow! You should’ve known they were going to ask him tough questions!”
I’ve no idea what’s blinding you, but I suggest a vision check pronto. Your rejoinder has nothing to do with what I posted, which was a response to John Mace relating to candor by judicial nominees.
The merits of Roe vs. Wade are best left to other threads (ad nauseam), don’t you think?
This is custom made bullshit. While I would not have described her as DTC did. But come on, she’s a grown woman. It’s obvious it was done for the cameras.
Fits a bit to well into the administrations needs.
The right wing media was ready for it. Took the handoff and ran with it.
You’re comparing Alito to a MURDERER now? Wow, I thought those Demmies were rough with their rhetoric.
It is nothing of the sort. This sort of bullshit is disastrous to the Democratic party, and as someone who really wants Democrats to win, I wish you’d stop, or at least go join some other party. Not the Greens, though: they’re my ultimate fantasy party. (Well, capitalize “Party” and that’s true).
Daniel
Wait. I just thought of something. And it is very disturbing. Follow me here.
Diogenes. Have you ever had a thick, juicy hamburger? I know you have, and you must have enjoyed it. Will you have another in the future? I’ll bet you will. And where will that hamburger come from? A cow. That cow must die before you can enjoy the deliciousness. So here’s the question.
Why do you want Alito’s wife to die? It just seems a bit mean-spirited. I’m so disappointed in you that I now must go kick my dog to feel better. Damn you!
**Dio **comes to his senses and… the **Loser **picks up the slack. Well done, shit-for-brains!
Ahm but thy mother is Ginsburg! 
Shit! Who gave you the triple espresso with extra testosterone?
You know it wasn’t a game? You have inside info or what? It’s not like the republicans have never played games you know.