Worst case of "manager speak" you've heard?

“He was REF’ed from his previous employment.”

REF = reduction in force. He was laid off.

That’s RIF’d :slight_smile:

That makes even better sense.

Okay, this illustrates the point of the anti-incentivizers:

See? “Incentivize” is apparently used for greater precision in meaning, but even in this thread, people do not agree on the meaning.

(I admit I chopped a lot to make my point, but I don’t think I am misrepresenting the flow here.)

… “so” or “because” …

‘Providing an incentive’. There is no such thing as ‘incentivize’. Nor ‘nutritionize’ when what you mean is ‘feed’.

That word is been around long enough to earn its place in Merriam-Webster. It’s succinct, and it’s language evolving to fill a specific need. Welcome to the world of English.

If that first word existed, the two words still would not be synonyms.

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That word is been around long enough to earn its place in Merriam-Webster. QUOTE]

that hardly qualifies the word as respectable. lots of ‘words’ are in M-W. Read Fowler.

It must be a ‘new innovation’.

LOL

I read Fowler back when I was young and full of myself, and prone to giving other people advice. In retrospect Fowler analogized far too much to Latin, and in the end didn’t understand English nearly as well as he thought he did.

I don’t agree with everything in Fowler, but he is correct about most things.

See? Did you have any trouble understanding what I meant?

That would be ‘encourage’ participation. See how this works?

Then the entire company is ignorant for not knowing even high-school English. Got that?

Can anyone guess what this means?

we initiate, without any immediate consciousness of the action, the most purposive counter-movements and in the process plainly make use of our entire faculty of understanding

My favorite was when “rationalize” caught on.

As in “we should review and rationalize our technology stack.”

What they meant was “lets look over our stack and get rid of all the duct tape and bubble gum.” What it sounded like they were saying (and I made fun of them until they stopped saying it) was “lets review our tech stack and make a bunch of excuses about why it sucks” - which is what we really ended up doing, because it always turns out that duct tape is going to be really expensive and risky to rip off.

There are perfectly good English constructs to state every buzzword found in this thread. I find myself using-never utilizing, mind!- some of them myself. The general idea, from what I gather, is to make words seem more action oriented and positive. So, you never have a problem, it is an OPPORTUNITY! There can be no financial hurdle too high for a potential partner/vendor to jump, because they are “paying the greens fees”. It becomes tiresome to keep up with the lingo, and more so to work with it. It does not in any way make the news being delivered less grim and certainly does not make the speaker smarter or more influential.

I’ve already given you a note in another thread for similar reasons…this is your last one before a warning. I suggest you stop replying to these threads if you can’t reply at least a little cordially to everyone or take it to the BBQ Pit to lash out at who you want.

Does it bother you when the world doesn’t bend to your will?

These companies earn more revenue* in a single day than you will earn in your entire life. It must suck to be the one who knows the correct way to speak and everyone else just doesn’t get it!

English is a fluid language. You are wrong if you believe otherwise.

*did you understand the term revenue?

But I do, and they are wrong. Since when does profitability have anything to do with knowledge of English? Did I say these people are no good at their jobs? No, I don’t believe I said that. Can you read what I said?

Gross income, before taxes, wages, etc.

Bone, since Melchior had been reprimanded for those posts, it would have been better to let the matter drop. And Melchior, since you had been reprimanded, it would have been better not to respond.

Everyone, stop the squabbling about whether corporate culture is “right” or “wrong” in using this language and stick to providing examples, at least in this thread. Start a new thread for tangential issues, either in GD or the Pit as you see fit.

No warnings issued.

twickster, MPSIMS moderator

One that just showed up in my Inbox refers to a new revision to an existing product. The writer decided to refer to the product as being “up-reved”.

I’m going to personally find this person and punch them in the nuts.