SPOOFE Bo Diddly wrote:
Yeah, everybody and his brother has his own hair-brained theory to explain the French Paradox. Dr. Barry Sears, the inventor of the low-carbohydrate “Zone Diet”, asserts that French people are healthier than Americans because they don’t eat as many carbohydrates (surprise, surprise). I could say it was because of those nasally vowel sounds in the French language – and people would believe me, too, if I wrote a book about it.
COSMIN & ZERO: Ok, regarding source; I foud so many in 5 minutes it ws impossible to list them all. So, here you go, ready? type in the word “grazing” on your search engine. Now read. You also might try -
http://smallfarms.grst.edu/grazing.htm or http://www.glci.org/ Now, if you still wanna believe that cattle are kept in pens most of their life and fed grain, post a cite, or a search or anything.
ZERO : and you can’t quote “a book I read once” that’s not a source, or a cite. At least you need a title. :mad: NOBODY doubts that eating too much beef is bad for you, so is eating too much pork, or cheese, or macadamia nuts, or avocados, or eggs, or carrots, or…or…or…
Note also, milk does NOT originate in cartons at your grocery store 
Do you need me to post a cite for that?
Bottom line: People in the US eat far too much meat, mainly beef, for their own good. If they ate less, they’d be healthier, there would be less pollution, more grain for other uses, and rainforests wouldn’t be torn up to supply fast food beef.
If the beef industry didn’t have so much political clout, the government could launch a big educational campaign like the one in California regarding smoking. People would realize it would be more benificial to eat lower on the food chain. Incidentely, there was a post here some time ago which claimed that fish convert vegetable to animal protien at a ratio of one to one because they are cold blooded and don’t waste a lot of what they eat as heat.
Uh, the US doesn’t have any rainforests. And as for “more grain for other uses” we have all the grain we could possibly need and then some.
Galen: are you reading the posts here? I. there is no evidence there would be “less pollution” if we switched from beef to , say soybeans. Post a cite or a source that sez there would be. 2.There would not be “more grain for other uses”. We already have too much grain as it is, here. Cattle do not eat grain that is “people food”, as in the stuff you usually buy. ( Oh, you COULD eat corn grown for cattle, but you wouldn’t like it).
Sure, people would be heathlier if they ate LESS meat, but not if they ate NONE. People would be healthier if they ate less chocolate, or sugar, or avocados, or macadamia nuts, also. So let’s ban them, too.
Rainforests are torn up because those people are POOR. They would still do it without a market for beef, they would just grow something else.
Smoking is flat out bad for you. Eating a moderate amount of beef is GOOD for you, eating too much (as I will admit I, & many other Americans do) is bad for you. Taking too much aspirin is bad for you, drinking too much water can kill you. Lets start a public awareness campaign against water drinking.
Fish can’t covert vegetable protien to animal protein on a “one to one basis”, see there are these little thing called the Laws of Thermodynamics. Read them sometime.
GALEN: “People realize it would be more benificial to eat lower on the food chain.”
Yes, I long for a health diet of carrion. It’s just so hard to come by in modern society. Sheesh.
GALEN: “fish convert vegetable to animal protien at a ratio of one to one because they are cold blooded and don’t waste a lot of what they eat as heat.”
So, logically, if we could harness a fish’s stomach / digestive system we could defeat entropy. Cool. Heck, we wouldn’t even need to use a fish, apparently any old cold blooded animal would work.
GALEN: “Bottom line: People in the US eat far too much meat, mainly beef, for their own good. If they ate less, they’d be healthier, there would be less pollution, more grain for other uses, and rainforests wouldn’t be torn up to supply fast food beef.”
Bottom line: If we could reverse the course of Halley’s Comet, gas prices, which have been on the rise ever since it passed, would start going back down. Sheesh again. There is such a thing as a non-causative correlation.
ROBODUDE: “the US doesn’t have any rainforests.”
I doubt he was talking specifically about the U.S. However, we still do, anyway. There is a national rainforest preserve right here in Washington, on the Olympic penninsula. We don’t have any tropical rainforests.
DANIELINTHEWOLVESDEN: “Lets start a public awareness campaign against water drinking.”
I am suddenly very glad I haven’t had a non-carbonated beverage since 1993. Now where did I put my false teeth? Time for a big, juicy, steak. 
JD: there may be a little “separated at birth” thing here: I too, never drink water, unless you count the melted ice cubes in my diet soda. Let’s grab a big porterhouse someday, eh?
I hate to be a “dittohead”, but your posts are exactly what I would have said. 
I think we have slammed these unprepared kids down for the count. Guys, next time show up with some facts, OK?
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Anyone who’s been to Hawaii would beg to differ, I’m sure.
COSMIN: I have flamed you for not showing uo with any sources. However, if I interpret your last post right, you have seen the error or your ways, and waved the white flag. This shows more maturity than several(dare I say many? )
established posters. Try again, and bring some cites, or try one of the GD that is mostly opinion & not much facts. Thanks.
I agree that water is dangerous. If you inhale it, it can kill you. If it saturates the brakes of your car, it can cause car accidents. In its solid form, it can cause permanent skin damage. Hell, water has even been found in cancers. It can also transmit bacteria and dangerous germs to the human body.
I say that the government immediately ban dihydrogen monoxide, since it’s clearly a hazard to life on Earth, and anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
Heck, if you want to save the planet, get rid of the people.
Anyway, the planet doesn’t need saving - it will undoubtedly be here long after we are gone. You’re just talking about the current ecosystem that we’re busy screwing up.
One other thing - don’t forget the damage to the environment that would be caused by disposing of all this suddenly-unwanted beef:
http://www.stinkymeat.net