Would this primitive ,,weapon,, idea work?

Hi everyone,so when you think about warfare,if we exclude artillery and grenades,which are not that common,then most of the kills are from guns and mostly because you had to show your head above a trench,beside a wall (to ,peek,) or something in order to actually see the enemy yourself,otherwise you’d just be spraying bullets everywhere and wasting them all,with a 99,9% chance that you’ll not even scratch an enemy,right? (other situations would be ambushes and so on,but this idea doesn’t apply to them) ,so I saw this awesome system that more or less completely makes that problem non-existent (please watch the video) :

,so as awesome as that is,there's an obvious problem,the probably high price,many,many countries have problems with funding their armies,for example even richer countries like Austria have problems,Austrians with their planes,I think they can't afford a lot of fuel or something and I kinda doubt that even richer countries like Israel can afford this stuff in bigger quantities,so that they could actually be a game changer and most countries that actually go in wars and have a high chance of engaging in a war are usually not that rich,for example Ukraine,Arab countries,Armenia/Azerbaijan,Balkan countries,African countries and many others,so I was wondering whether just a very simple mirror somehow attached to a gun would be useful? Obviously it wouldn't help in long distances,although that probably depends on the mirror specifications,but basically this is what I had in mind http://www.dodaj.rs/f/w/Of/1qfvqwIV/sadfa.png ,that is more or less the same concept like the cornershot in the video,but with homemade ingredients that any army could afford,so would that work on at least 20-40 meters?

For those of us who can’t get to YouTube at work, or who won’t click on an unlabelled link in any case, could you give a brief synopsis of what’s on the video, and maybe toss in the occasional space after a comma this time?

Corner shot guns are nothing new. The Germans had an attachment for their Sturmgewehr assault rifles in World War II called the Krummlauf, which was basically just a simple curved barrel attachment that allowed them to shoot around corners. They found them to be somewhat useful in urban combat, and they were also effective in defending armored vehicles. They were mounted to small gun ports, allowing someone in the vehicle to shoot upwards (due to the limited room inside the vehicle) and have the bullets come out horizontally against anyone who had happened to climb onto the vehicle. They were fairly effective at short range, but the bullets tended to fragment as they went around the bend in the Krummlauf, resulting in somewhat of a mini-shotgun type of effect that was fairly useless beyond short ranges.

Periscope rifles were also fairly common, dating all the way back to World War I.

Israel actually does use a corner shot gun. Instead of a mirror, it’s a special mount that attaches to a pistol and is equipped with a high resolution digital camera. Similar systems are used by several different countries, including the U.S. and many others.

Periscope rifles and corner shot guns have their uses, but they aren’t about to replace the standard infantry rifle any time soon.

Still, that is pretty cool. If the bad guys used it, one could say sneaky. :slight_smile:

Again, what others have said, nothing new.

I would enjoy a cite that shows where you get your casualty rates from.

Many modern units ‘spray bullets’ because it is called suppressive fire.

Your idea could very well work in the exact right circumstances, but outside those specific areas it might be limited.

Bringing mirrors, or any reflective surface, brings the possibility that your position will be compromised. Limiting your range to 20-40 meters severely limits possible use.

The Israeli guy who made it suggested that two men in a group of ten would have them.

They are just my general views,no exact casualty rates (I doubt that you could find them anywhere) ,but I was talking about Ukraine mostly,as well as balkans,if you take a look at videos from there,then most of the action is either shooting around the corner,rock,whatever or artillery,there’s very little of anything less and when you think about it,does anything other even exist in urban warfare other than corner shooting? Snipers also make holes in buildings so that’s not exactly from a corner,but still you are hidden. Here’s a video of the recent attack of terrorists in Grozny,Chechnya,the police is shooting from a ,corner, ,which in this situation is the apc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIC2lI2Exys 14 policemen were killed here (2014 Grozny clashes - Wikipedia)

I know it would be for limited use,like 30-40 meters maybe,cornershot from the video is also with a small range,but even if it was 10 meters,if you make an obstacle an enemy ,can’t, pass easily,then you are in a better position,then you simply bring that obstacle closer and closer to your enemy and eventually he is on the open and can’t hide anywhere.

Regarding the mirror compromisation thing,I am not sure if I understood,if you mean because of the reflection it makes,then easy,the drawing I made was just to show the view,but you could make like a prolonged curved sniper optic,then that problem would be eliminated and if we are talking about the mirror you get by just breaking a window (if that sort of glass would even work),then you are probably already in a situation where enemy knows where you are,the only difference is that you would stick out a piece of glass instead of your head.

Please put a space after every comma. Please.

The proper method of having an obstacle that the enemy can’t pass that also gets closer and closer isn’t passingbout sideways shooting guns that are only accurate to 40 meters. It is to call in a tank.

The issue I see, and it wasn’t address in the video, is the recoil. Sure, with a small handgun, it’s probably not too bad, but anything larger, and I imagine it’s going to be hell on your wrist and elbow to maintain your bead after every shot. With a normal rifle, recoil goes into your shoulder. With this, it seems to go entirely into the wrist.

There is no circumstance in English where two or more commas are correctly used consecutively. Punctuation is your friend—learn to use it, please.

My Mother said things like that, but she was an English teacher. :slight_smile:

Yes, but the concept is shooting the other guy so that he doesn’t shoot you, so I’d be willing to wear an Ace bandage for several days afterwards. :slight_smile:

If we see something like this, it will most likely be a small camera mounted on the rifle with an eyepiece connected to it wirelessly. That actually seems fairly practical, especially if the camera can transmit a few miles and give live feed to command elements.

My concern would be more in the short term. You break your wrist shooting guy number 1, and then when guy number 2 comes along you’re up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle.