“We’re kinda being trained to be warriors … only in a much funner way.”
Brilliant. 
killed
Has anyone seen the last comment on there? I can see this turning real ugly now.
I wanted to check it out, but after pushing past the vasty majority of the population that we represent, my ego was in the way.
You left out burning crosses, shooting abortion doctors, and bombing gay night clubs.
We’re decadent now? Why wasn’t I informed of this? I demand to be in the loop!
I really don’t want to lessen the atrocities that radical Christians do, or to de-emphasize how un-Christlike it is, but, by sheer numbers of innocent victims, there is no comparison. The innocent citizens in Iraq, Malyasia, Israel, and the world are impossibly more likely to be killed by a radical Muslim than by a radical Christian.
And, in case it is not clear, I in no way, shape, or form condone any of those actions.
Indeed, that is horrible. The indoctrinization of innocent minds in that manner is unspeakably evil. But you’re kidding yourself if you think the exact same thing, except with more violence and hatred, occurs in the radical Muslim world.
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You make it sound like radical Islam is embracing those things; that they are all for use of condoms and that they treat women with a modicum of respect. That simply isn’t true. It wasn’t until last year in the face of an AIDS and Hep-C epidemic that Iran budged a bit on their zero tolerance for heroin/needle use. They’ve still made no change in their horrific treatment of women.
Well, when a radical Christian launches nuclear weapons in his God’s name, then I just may agree with you. Personally I don’t see that happening.
How many people has our radical Christian President killed in Iraq ? More than Bin Laden did in the US.
No, I’m saying I see little difference in the effects of the two. The Christians are just smoother; better propagandists. And they have more powerful militaries.
You won’t agree with me, because you’ll be dead and so will I. We came quite close with Reagan.
If you believe that Bush was motivated by Rapture-ism, or spreading Christianity, or hatred for an Islamic country (which, oddly enough was secular under Hussein), then there is no point in trying to discuss this with you. I can forsee nothing fruitful coming from engaging you.
We’re a bastion of homosexuality? Durnit, does that mean I have to choose between my husband and The Dope. That’s going to be a tough one.
Personally, I don’t believe that evil works on the points system. The Christian extremist who blows up a gay bar is just as evil, and just as dangerous, as the Muslim extremist who blows up a marine barracks. Certainly, there are a lot more of the latter than the former (at least at the present moment in time) but on a one-for-one basis, they are exactly comparable.
And the innocent citizen in America is far more likely to be the victim of a Christian extremist than a Muslim extremist. Hell, I’m in more immediate danger from mainstream Christians than I am from Muslim extremists. The odds of me dying in a terrorist attack are vanishingly small, after all, and the Taliban doesn’t vote.
Which is entirely beside the point. A single nutball Muslim is no worse than a single nutball Christian. THAT is the point. Religious fanatcism is about fanatacism, not about doctrine. The amount of fanaticism withing a given religion is largely a result of desperation and lack of political power, not an inherent product of the religion itself. Violent fanatacism is minimized in Christianity, not because Christianity is so special but because Christians have all the power and money. If you took away their political power and their money and herded them behind barbed wire, the Christians would be strapping bombs to their backs and blowing up kindergartens. It’s not like conservative Christians in the US have any moral problem with visiting large scale, military violence on civilians in the Arab world.
Rosie is right. Any assumption that Christianity is immune to fanatacism or that the production of violent zeaolts has a damn thing to do with specific doctrine is culturally arrogant at best and unconsciously bigoted at worst.
She saw you on the repeater scope screen in my secret HQ. I keep you under constant surveillance, of course, since you are on record as opposing my rightful installation as God-King of Terra.
Continuing to skip surreally down the Jesus Camp and “Warriors for God” tangent…
Apparently one of the Pastors showcased in the documentary, Becky Fischer, has been and continues to do her work in Mrs. Dewgrrl’s hometown of Mandan, ND.
We’ve been watching the trailer and a few other clips related to the documentary in an almost disbelieving state of “um…holy shit”.
Being a recovering Catholic, Mrs. Dewgrrl is unfamiliar with Pastor Fischer’s work, but she is flying home this weekend for a family wedding, and we’re tempted to drop off an invitation to our pending commitment ceremony at Pastor Fischer’s office. That would surely spice up our illicit nuptials.
By the way, the Google ad is for “Persecuted Christians - Find out how you can help! Receive our free newsletter.”
I find their ideas intriguing and I’d like to subsc… Maybe not.
I don’t know how Mighty Girl happened to notice Kathy Kelley, but she seems to be relatively harmless. She didn’t talk of taking over America for Jesus. Instead, she spoke of fighting on her knees. She’s just a warm, fuzzy Christian. Save your anger for somebody who really wants to take away your freedom.
Oh, I beg of you…get a transcript.
Hamlet, Miller & DtC nailed it. Doesn’t matter if the extremist is Muslim or Christian or Jewish, American, Irish, Israeli…an extremist is an extremist is an extremist. The only thing that changes is what they call themselves. What it boils down to is someone who is willing to kill or die for their religious beliefs, who will not rest til the entire world believes the way they do. The Muslims have a head start is all.
I’ve crossed off the middle east as a place I want to visit, its too scary, and considering the radical Christian terrorism in the US that I’m hearing about here, I don’t think I’ll want to visit the US again.
Yup, I think I’ll stay in Canada.
You should try living here 
Do I sound angry at her? If so I have to state my position: I am not angry at her, I am mildly puzzled at the need to align oneself with an undesirable section of one’s religion so one can feel victimized. Or else she doesn’t understand what “radical” means. Which is strange enough for someone that is obviously intelligent.
Why do so many Christians insist that they are discriminated, or more unlikely even, persecuted? How did they arrive to that conclusion, in the US of all places? Does that fulfill a secret need?