Wounded troops get a bill for equipment...

No, but they report their engagements and magazines are counted back at base.

Reminds me of what my brother told me when he was in the Navy. Every plane that went down, or every ship, suddenly got a massive inventory transfer just before it took off, left port, whatever. And everyone’s books balanced.

How early in the morning do you have to get up to be so stupid? The bill was assessed before Obama took office. Not that this reflects on Bush, either. It’s obviously just some idiot paper-pushers being idiots.

Just to piggy-back on what Spav said, this financial charge was the result of a FLIPL (financial liability investigation of property loss).

Ideally, this guy’s battle buddies should have secured any equipment he left behind after he was shot, conditions permitting. Being found negligent is required in order to assess financial liability, so without seeing the actual FLIPL report or hearing from anyone else in his unit, it’s impossible to determine how he was found negligent.

He has several different options to rebut or simply have the charges waived, but it looks like the complicating factors here are the amount of time that has passed (which should go in his favor if his unit has taken so long in getting anything to him) and the fact that he’s national guard and thus may have a tougher time getting to legal resources.

I just assumed Rover was kidding, myself, though I’m prepared to be wrong.

I’m not sure just what the Obama crack is about, but in the event it had something to do with my “nobody pays for nothing” comment it is worth noting that the standard for review of Reports of Survey has been in place since George Washington took command under the elm tree at Cambridge. BY the same token there has been a shortage of 250 mattress bags that has shifted from company to company for some 225 years. They were used to make sand bags at Bunker Hill.

In the real world nobody makes a wounded soldier pay for field gear left on the battlefield, especially when his “battle buddies” (where did that truly silly name come from) probably policed it up and recycled it for personal use or right back into the company supply room and arms room.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Are you serious?

Wait, I thought President Obama was supposed to be a Socialist. He’s now a Libertarian?

I’m so confused.

No, they become Senators and run for President.

I knew this would happen when they let women in the military. They have time to get engaged and read People magazine in the field?

And the worse sort, a retroactive libertarian.

This is the same person who is so fucking righteous about how his tax dollars are wasted. Military personnel have always been charged for lost items. Civil War and Indian War records show charges for horses and equipment lost. It’s manufactured outrage, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Spavined Gelding

You know the difference between a fairy tail and a sea story right?

The version I heard involved a lost telescope and the Bonhomme Richard.

Just by the way, and not to detract from the rant, let me tell you one of the few neato things about going to war.

At some point you get called over to the issue facility and they give you brand new everything, helmet, load gear, pro mask, everything, just ask. Then you sign for it. Then the war is over and they never ask for it back.

Remarkable.

It sounds like, just maybe, the Navy understood that there can be battle damage, or even a total loss of some things (ammo, planes, ships…). I’d hate to get a bill for an aircraft carrier :eek:

and Rand,

You better check your history and your facts before you spout off. This idiocy happened under the Bush administration also. Neither Bush nor Obama caused it. It’s pure bureaucratic stupidity.

:smiley: Thanks for making me laugh 3 times in a row.

Well played, sir.