Dudes, you are looking for the ghost of the Man in the Iron Mask. His nonexistance nonwithstanding [He was fictional. There was a prisoner that wore a black velvet mask and was kept isolated and mostly incommunicado however. They are NOT the same person.]
Why the fuck are they flying the tricolor and playing La Marseillaise to get a reaction from him? Hell on a triscut, the poor sod died in 1703, long before the revolution.
You’d think they’d be much more rigorous in their research.
If I wasn’t a cripple, I would shoot them an application to be a researcher or whatever for the show. 5 minutes with wikipedia would demonstrate the futility of treating someone who was slammered, lived and died entirely during l’Ancien Regime with Revolutionary era stuff.
I watch a bunch of the paranormal stuff mainly DVRd as background noise during the day if there isn’t anything else on. I am baffled by how stupid some of them are - like Destination Truth doing an in the dark hunt for a monster normally seen during the day:dubious: :smack::smack::smack: I joke that I watch that show just to see if they fall off a mountain or something.
Nah, only scientists need to do research.
I figure you’d be better off dropping some shrooms while watching these shows, rather than pondering such mysteries.
Destination Truth isn’t paranormal. They throw a few ghost hunts in for ratings, but the main premiss is to debunk local legends. I imagine the night vision is used because it looks better on t.v.
Yes it is, paranormal is anything not normal. You consider bigfoot normal?
[I class anything that might be found in a copy of Fortean Times as paranormal.]
The thing that always gets me is when they’re in non-English speaking countries, searching for (presumably) non-English speaking ghosts, and…they’re talking to them in English. You’d think that they’d at least get a local translator.
I also seem to remember an episode in…I think the Philippines?..where there was a jungle or forest or something nearby. Their audio was compromised because of all the insects making noise (which I suppose isn’t exactly something you can control), and I’m pretty sure the “screams” that they heard were not human. You couldn’t take local wildlife into account before deciding that the noise you heard was a ghost? For that particular episode it would’ve been infinitely creepier if all of the wildlife had suddenly gone silent.
That is pretty funny, or the EVPs are in english while they are in Romania or somewhere like that.
What always bothers me are the ones on metal boats. They degauss active duty Navy vessels, but not decomissioned ones, nor civilian boats - so they will inherently have electrical fields even when not powered up. Heck, anything metal attached to an electrical source can retain a small electrical field so they shouldn’t be so fast to claim any random strong electrical field is a ghost, unless the area had been degaussed recently. At least they are better than that one Pennsylvania paranormal group that seems to decide everything is demonic in origin. That was the trouble with Ed and Lorraine Warren, lovely people but thought anything paranormal unless it was catholic in origin was demonic or evil. We had more discussions about that, though Lorraine grudgingly agreed that even though I am pretty much a heretic, I was not actually evil nor possessed and probably not actually going to hell.
Which hints at the biggest unspoken problem with ghost hunting:
*They *are deciding what constitutes evidence of a ghost, without justification.
Why is an unexplained electrical field a ghost? Assuming (wrongly) that it’s not an electrical field that a real scientist would be able to find a known cause for, why would one conclude it’s caused by some remnant of a dead person? Why not an ‘energy field’ of a time traveler from the future? Or a fairy? Or a god? Or a person in a parallel universe? Why not some heretofore unknown, but natural, phenomenon that causes electrical fields to sometimes appear when a neutrino whizzes by?
Unless what you were hearing was . . . *the ghosts of dead wildlife!!!
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Ghost Hunters was much better when they first started and Grant and Jason actually tried to debunk things. Both GH and GHI have devolved into paradies of themselves since they got famous and had to actually start producing some “paranormal” results.
The one I find mind-hurty is that show where the try to debunk the internet videos of “paranormal” occurances. Most of those are so obvious that my 8-year old can figure them out and watching these poor people go through the motions of putting together a Mythbusters style experiment to test a ridiculous theory is just painful.
Oh yeah? Well, let’s just see if you can debunk THIS super-scary video! Gives me the chills…
They are basing a lot of the whole ‘mystery electronic field’ woo on a couple things: firstly, it has been documented that electrical fields can effect the brain, causing hallucinations and paranoia. Secondly, they also feel that the ghosts are draining batteries and using environmental electricity [lightening and suchlike] to ‘power’ their appearance. So they wander around with cute little tools to measure electrical fields, and any that seem to appear with no appliances or electrical devices are obviously ghosts. They do not take into account that electrical fields can be stored up in metal objects like a ships hull and the wiring and plumbing in a house.
I agree, they were much better in the early episodes when they did make the effort to debunk things, and most locations got the ‘nope, not paranormal, it was caused by X’ or ‘we didn’t get any of the listed happenings, and nothing happened to any of us’ results.
When they go to a business or a touristy place, they almost always agree that it’s haunted. Even if we the audience, saw nothing during the investigation.
“Ghost create electrical fields. For reasons.”
There was one GHI episode where they picked up some EVP that the local fella said he could hear words from his native language on (I can’t remember what country they were in)
Agreed. I think one of the scariest episodes I saw was one where a little girl was seeing a man with a “booboo on his head” in her room and they found out that a man had committed suicide in/near the property (or perhaps he was shot by cops?) and they did turn up some very strange evidence of something being in the house (specifically the heat signature on a chair in the chlld’s room). From then on every week they’d find ‘clear evidence’ of a haunting
Well I won’t be getting a wink of sleep tonight, damn you!!!
It’s well known that ghosts always speak in your language because they sense your presence.
Even if you record something in Romania, then play it back in the USA. Or China. The EVP magically translates itself. Fascinating, isn’t it?
See?