And German.
Thomas Jefferson called them Musselmen (sp?).
Like the applesauce! 
I assume that at least some of the early sources about Jesus must have been written in Hebrew or Aramaic, languages which don’t even have vowels in their written alphabets! It would be easy to insert the wrong vowels when translating to Greek/Latin/English/Esperanto, whatever.
I always assumed the word “disease” was derived from “dis - ease” (or both derived from a common earlier root). Makes sense to me. You can find lots of words like that. Another I came up with was “hideous” == “hide-ous” like an elephant, rhinoceros, or hippopotamus.
The Arabic pronunciation has a soft s, and the o sounds like in cook but not moo.
Thus Moslem and Musselman.
What I meant by saying that it’s the way of spelling it in the Latin alphabet is that the word that both Moslem and Muslim comes from is a single Arabic word. The word was, of course, written in the Arabic alphabet for the Arabic speakers who used it. At some point, some speaker of a European language heard the word and wrote it down in the Latin alphabet. I don’t know the history of the derivation of the word up to the point that it reached English. It may well have passed through several European languages before reaching English. In any case, when it reached English, some people spelled it as Moslem and some spelled it as Muslim. It may have been spelled in other ways too. As you can see in the chart in one of the links I gave, Muslim passed Moslem as the most common spelling, perhaps around 1942.
No love for the Musselmen? I hear they’re a lovely group of half-mollusc superheroes.
Chrestianity: An ancient Roman religion founded by Tuthicus Dentinus, the inventor of dental floss. His followers, who were persecuted by the Emperor Cavitus Creepus, had to perform their rituals in secrecy. In order to recognize other Chrestians they wore tiny symbolic toothbrushes around their necks. Their ceremonies would always begin with a prayer to the venerable Saints Colgaitius, Pepsodentius, and Gleemius:
Chrest has been shown to be an effective decay preventive dentifrice that can be of significant value when used in a conscientiously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care.
Amen^ ::raucous applause::
“New Crest Gel! New Crest Gel!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Y_vEKbZhU
There is ample evidence for the first, but none for the second. “Hideous” comes from an old French word meaning “fear”, so “hideous” means “fearsome” or “scary,” while “hide” comes from old English “hydan” meaning animal skin.
It’s generally a good idea not to make up your own etymologies unless you are just doing it for shits and giggles.
Cavitus Creepus’ Imperial cult chanted their own holy words:
Only hogarth has mentioned an English form of Chrestian with an e — cretin. This word is related to the French chrétien.
I’ve never heard nor read of this “Musselman” of which you all speak.
Anyone care to enlighten me?
It was usually spelled mussulman, but it went out of use ages and ages ago.
When we’re done with this we can discuss how to spell Ghaddafi. Or how Beijing became Peking. When people with limited focus on accuracy try to transliterate words from one language to another, sometimes mistakes and mispronunciations creep in… and get written down. Heck, how did Wein become Vienna? Tsar/Czar? Even between two European languages the scribos are rife.
yes, I do recall seeing much older texts refer to Muslims as “Musselman”.
That usage, as well as the spelling “Mahometan” and the term “Mussulmen”, also shows up in the Treaty of Tripoli, one of the first treaties the US ratified, within the lifetime of most of the founding fathers. It gets a lot of press nowadays for its declaration that the US was not founded as a Christian nation, and that we therefore have no religious cause of conflict with Muslim nations.
I was in error re: Jefferson. I was referring to Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, which was signed by President John Adams.
On second thought, Jefferson may have used the term, also, but ToT is where I got the Musselmen reference.
ETA: ninja’d on ToT by Chronos? Oh, the shame.
Cool. Thanks all. I’d never seen that.
That would be Wien (makes a big difference in the order of vowels if you know German pronunciation. Also, “wein” means “wine.”) And it looks like the English name came from the Italian Vienna, which just looks like Wien with an extra vowel tacked onto it (which I guess the Italian language must occasionally do, given there’s a whole lingual stereotype of Italians adding a schwa to the end of words.)