It’s an important “catch” because much of this thread has been based on ignorance and failure to understand municipality vs rural township.
It was the County commissioners that voted to not just keep but to expand this system. I assume they’re an elected body, and didn’t take power through some sort of coup.
Na, Gonzomax is busy with a few other threads. He’ll be along shortly to tell us we’re all heartless bastards and that this wasn’t about money, and that we all enjoyed teaching this guy a lesson. Then the fun starts up all over again.
Well, while we’re waiting for our [del]daily[/del] hourly dose of guilt from gonzo, what’s say we set someone’s house on fire and laugh while it burns?
Because we’re heartless bastards, and that’s how we roll.
You say you are willing to spend the $75 to save the home? It was more than Crannick was willing to do. Now, of course, he is willing to spend the $75, but, at the time of payment, he had a much smarter way.
Actually, you have a chance to help Crannick right now. You know how he can be reached…send him $75 dollars. I bet it will help. He needs it now, if ever.
You also have a chance to help somebody else in this situation. Find a subscription fire department, ask who hasn’t paid, and pay it.
I bet you’re not reaching for your checkbook, are you?
Crannick got himself in a jam, wants free services, isn’t getting them. If the department had tried to do anything on his property, and it still burned up, my guess is that he would have sued them for some sort of bad behavior. One of the weapons that his lawyer would have used would be “Now, mr. firefighter, you, legally, weren’t even supposed to be on his property, were you?”
The whole affair ain’t good, but, housefires are not fun in general, so one could theorize that life isn’t the holly jolly free ride that we wish it would be.
It isn’t because he 'isn’t enough like us" that he gets no empathy. It is because he said to the FD “F*** off. I can do what I want, and you must still do my bidding, and put your lives at risk to work for my possessions, because I can spend my $75 dollars on a night on the town, instead of supporting the community effort.”
Just as an aside, we have had three fires in the last week in the unincorporated county. The county is served by volunteer fire departments. The fire departments are funded by tax dollars. All three homes were burned to the ground.
It wasn’t that the VFD’s came out with hot dogs and smores, I would assume in all three cases, they tried to save the people first, contain the fire next, and then put out the fire.
I’m only posting to say that even if the fire department HAD tried to put out the fire, it still may have been a total loss. After reading through the thread and the links, I am thinking that the neighbor called the fire department only to bring the FD out to the scene of Cranick’s house to try to convince the FD to put out Cranick’s fire, even though he knew his house was not at risk.
Cranick’s home burned to the ground. It could have happened even if he paid. The response time might have been sooner if he had subscribed, but the end result may not have been changed. That could be the reason that he didn’t subscribe, because he knew that the response time would be great enough that there would not have been much to save.
I’m not even sure you can save a mobile home at all past a certain point, if indeed his home was a double wide. I’d think it’d be far cheaper to just get a new one than to try and rebuild one that is half gutted.
Is that what you think? Wow.
So as always I am deeply impressed with the mind reading abilities of the people here who know why he did what he did. I am impressed. I really don’t know why he did not pay. But you guys know. That is good for you.
You know what kind of person he is . And we all know he got what was coming to him. On one side home burned to the ground, all his animals dead. On the other 75 bucks. Pretty fair .
Taking pleasure in a guys home burning down and his animals dying is sick. Yep, he was not as solid a citizen as you flawless people. You can harshly judge him, throw the first and second stone.
Some of you kiddies think he has not suffered enough. Not paying 75 was an egregious crime. Home burned down , animals dead, all is well. But perhaps he should be fined. You all know he could afford it and even that he spent it in a bar. Isn’t this fun? Justice was served. And you kind hearted people got the results that make you all warm and fuzzy.
I still think it was terrible, i still think the home and animals should have been saved.
What if Cranick the Elder cleaned up his property and didn’t maintain such a shithole of flammable weeds, bushes, and junk all around his homestead?
What if Cranicks Plural didn’t put their trash cans full of burnable trash in the middle of a yard full of flammable junk, right up next to an old shed full of oily rags, gasoline cans, expired paint, and lots of other flammable items?
What if Cranicks Whichever thought better than to build a storage shed right up next to the major domicile, itself a not-very-fire-resistant thin walled trailer, and then fill it with all sorts of combustible materials?
What if Cranick the Younger had better sense (or greater supervision), especially since in light of his previous fire-starting “accident”, than to ignite a fire in said cans then wander off to buttfuck a chicken or something, completely oblivious to the consequences until the blazing cans had ignited the grass and bushes, which spread to the storage shed, and finally caused a corner of the home to join the conflagration? (Well, oblivious to the consequences for the home, anyway. I’m pretty sure he knew the consequences for the chicken.)
What if Cranick the Oblivious, instead of running ineffectually around looking for someone else to blame, and being the only one on scene for at least some considerable period of time during the earlier stages of the house fire, had opened the doors of the home to release the poor animals he was keeping chained inside? And while he was there, grabbed a bible or two.
And finally,
What if this community, knowing it contained total morons like the Cranick family who clearly had no business being allowed to exercise even the most rudimentary levels of “judgment” on important decisions affecting their own lives but would have been best served through some level of permanent institutional care, had the sense and good judgment, as a community, to provide for regular, professional fire services for all its residents, and supported such service through taxes?
Why speculate? The guys in this thread will tell you why he did not pay and what kind of person he is. The guys house burned down demonstrating what kind of evil nasty person he is. If he were a thinking ,caring sober citizen, his home would still be standing. Cranick would have been just like you. But since he did not pay, he was an evil person who merely got what was coming to him.
What if Cranick’s grandkid was cooking meth in that back shed?
What if the garbage fire was actually the grandkid burning the cat and 3 dogs?
What if it was the neighbour’s house that caught fire and spread to Cranick’s?
And for the win, what if Obama was sent back in time to start the fire to help win the 2012 election, because in the alternate future the young Cranick starts a libertarian rebellion using $300 in cash he saved?
Can that be considered credible when they lied about, “because the homeowner **forgot **to pay a yearly fire protection fee.” He didn’t forget.
Why do you suppose the grandson didn’t let the animals out? Why is it you don’t care that he stood by for twice as long as the fire department? Why do you hate fire fighters so much?