X-Men '97 (Disney+ Series)

I’m enjoying it a lot. I did read many of these storylines in the comics myself. My husband has boxes and boxes of them.

I was not happy with the characterization of Jean Grey and slightly mollified when it turned out to be Madelyn. I hate the original Inferno story so hard, I think this is an improvement on it. And real Jean Grey seems fine as she’s written.

The peak so far has been the Genosha episode.

“Hey, it’s so cool they’re giving Remy all this character development… Oh, no.”

Brutal.

But there were so many details I liked in that episode. Like the way Remy silently flipped cards into the fire while Rogue described her history with Magneto.

I knew Fatal Attractions was coming. Only Wolverine would be stupid enough to fight Magneto with a freaking metal skeleton.

I do have a question though. Why is everyone blaming Xavier for Magneto? How is leaving the school to Magneto in any way responsible for his actions now? You know he was going to go lead Genosha no matter what. Magneto’s gonna Magneto.

Both me and my husband (who is a mega fan) found that frustrating and nonsensical.

Yea, I think its an unfortunate side effect of the speed run through the 80s and 90 stories that this season has done. Don’t get me wrong, I have liked the season overall but there was just too much big stuff in each episode.

It’s a weak connective line but I think you can think of it as Prof X legitimized Magneto by giving him the school and we briefly saw Magneto as a hero trying to live up to the trust his friend showed and that led then to the “trial” which then led to Magneto accepted as the fore-front leader of all mutants. I don’t agree he would have led Genosha regardless (he was invited to lead by the "hellfire/high council). Him being a figurehead King placed the bigger target on all of them which then lead to the Genosha attack, etc, etc…
So the blame is being out on the Professor for up-ending the status quo–without that decision Magneto is still the fringe “evil mutant” and the X-men are fighting for acceptance. (Cykes “respectablity politics” take-down in the TV interview wouldn’t have happened). Genosha might still have been attacked and destroyed but again we see respectability politics come into it–moderates on CNN would probably say “Magneto WAS a terrorist, perhaps the attack is justified for global security” --erasing more of the global goodwill present at the start of the season.

I’ve seen the first few episodes (can’t remember how many) and I am not particularly liking it. I mean, it’s not bad, it’s just… I kind of don’t care about any of the characters and I fear I have lost the plot. What’s going on again? I mean, it’s clear this I supposed to be serialized drama, not just a bunch of one-off episodes, but I am not seeing any particular overarching plot.

Maybe my difficulty stems from having never seen the 1990s series? My only exposure to the X-men universe is the live action feature films, of which I have seen almost all.

Anyway, Invincible this series is not.

Well, yeah, this is a direct continuation of that series. You’re basically jumping into an ongoing series at season 6. These X-Men have already lived through Days of Future Passed, Phoenix, Dark Phoenix, the Sentinels, the Age of Apocalypse, and a score of other '80s comic story arcs.

It sounds like you’re expecting one cohesive story rather than a soap opera. It’s actually why I had a hard time getting into the X-Men at first. My husband started me with the Phoenix Saga and I was completely overwhelmed. I didn’t really get into it until later when I read Joss Whedon’s Astonishing X-Men.

They are going through some big stories rapid fire which is kind of annoying. (Storm losing her powers was a whole thing and she wore a Mohawk and they skipped her most badass moments like beating out Scott Motherfucking Summers as leader - even though she had no powers. It was a great run! Over in two episodes.)

The accelerated speed makes it harder to care if you don’t already care.

But fundamentally I think it’s a show for comics fans.