XKCD's Climate Change Comic

Those times when she sits on his face and tells him that she loves him.

FWIW, another interesting and alarming graphic.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/files/2016/09/tempanoms_gis_august2016.gif

Oh sure, if you selectively begin your timeline after the end of the Pleistocene epoch: Why did Pokémon die out in North America?

With regard to Milankovitch cycles and Earth’s temperature you can’t really have an intellectually honest discussion without citing the exhausive work of Stanley, Simmons, Criss, Frehley et al. in the 1970’s:

100,000 Years

Hotter Than Hell

Cold Gin

Oh baby, yeah! Keepin’ it real in Café Society.

Given this a lot of thought.

I see. Well, of course, this is just the sort blinkered philistine pig-ignorance I’ve come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome spotty behinds squeezing blackheads, not caring a tinker’s cuss for the struggling artist. You excrement, you whining hypocritical toadies with your colour TV sets and your Tony Jacklin golf clubs and your bleeding masonic secret handshakes. You wouldn’t let me join, would you, you blackballing bastards. Well I wouldn’t become a Freemason now if you went down on your lousy stinking knees and begged me.

This thread got very strange for the last four posts.

This Cafe Society, you need to refresh on your Monthy Phyton:

What Ken001 is citing, the Architect Sketch.

I liked the Nine Inch Nails graffiti on the Lascaux cave, done by a cavewoman. :stuck_out_tongue:

There’s a section of (mostly) Wisconsin where the glaciers never came, known as The Driftless. Very interesting, and mostly uninhabited, area. Incredibly, even though I am a lifelong Midwesterner, I had never heard of it until I drove through it earlier this summer.

It’s a bad thing when you selectively omit information that would undercut the point you’re trying to make. The point of this comic seems to be: “At the rate we’re going, we could see nearly as much net warming in the next 100 years or so as we did in the last 20,000 years (and that would be a huge problem for the civilization we’ve developed over the course of those millennia).”

Do you agree that that’s the basic point? And if so, in what possible way would that point be undercut by noting that things were as hot 100,000 years ago?

I’ve never heard anyone actually argue “Climate change is bad because it will be hotter than it’s ever been”. That’s a total strawman. What people are saying is, “If we heat things up that quickly over the course of the next century, we’re screwed.”

It would show in tree rings, the problem is finding the tree. I know a guy whose PhD involved using tree ring measurements to study rain and temperature variations, but the oldest living trees around aren’t more than a couple thousand years old and while there are fossilized trees well, they reach the specific period they reach.

You can still patch together a much longer tree-ring record by matching the long-dead trees to not-quite-as-long-dead-trees, and match them up to ones slightly more recent, and so on until you get to the still-living trees.

“Mostly uninhabited?” Maybe by NYC standards. It coves 16000 sq miles of Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota. There are tons of small and medium sized towns in there, about the same as the glaciated areas of Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota.

My home you are talking about.

I didn’t know you were a BothSidesist.

By NYC standards all of Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota are “mostly uninhabited”. :slight_smile:

No so great a problem. For instance, dead trees from several thousand years ago have fallen into peat bogs, and been preserved, their rings still readable. I dare say there are other natural ways they have been preserved. It happens often enough to give us an unbroken story of the climate for the last 13,900 years.

Oh, and even if we had a preserved tree that was so old that it didn’t fit into a continuous tree-ring record, it would still show the presence of such a spike, even if we couldn’t determine precisely when that spike was.

Yeah, but (just to play Devil’s advocate for a moment) there would be a small chance that a spike might happen in a missing section. Not likely, but it could happen.

That’s also bullshit, because they didn’t even make Resident Evil until 2002, and it wasn’t until Resident Evil Retribution in 2012 that she road a motorcycle, so I don’t see how these crusty turds from the 70s have anything pertinent to say. I even think Dazed in and Confused was set in 1980, so it can’t be that.

My favorite Milankovitch movie though is The Fifth Element.

I think she’s really hot.

You know of a previous spike of several degrees over the course of a few decades? Do tell, and let us know how you do at picking up hot Swedes on your trip to Stockholm.

About 1 degree, by the chart.

The point is, she wasn’t hot for the first 20,000 years.