You don't carry a house key? Yeah, you're an idiot.

She probably thought that if you left the house and the door was unlocked, you would realize that she left it open on purpose. A rash assumption, perhaps, but not really worth being called a fucking idiot and a cunt. Didn’t you mention once that you don’t have IRL friends? Gee I wonder why.

People who don’t carry a house key with them sound like the same kind of people who go out without any cash, or their debit card, or a credit card - seriously, sticking a 20 in your sock or a card in your pocket isn’t the hardest thing in the world, and what if you actually do want or need to buy something? I think I was a boy scout in another life - my motto is, “It’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.”

My garage is separate from my house - I like it that way.

I don’t care what anyone else is eating for Thanksgiving, or what cat they just rescued, but I read those threads too. If someone posts about a life choice that I consider silly, or unwise, I may be compelled to comment.

That’s the thing, you can’t even say for sure if it’s silly or unwise. I gave 2 hypotheticals above that demonstrate why one wouldn’t need to carry a key, and there are certainly others.

I agree with all of your points, but… who cares? If she can’t get into the house she’ll only have herself to blame, and you get the added bonus of getting to say “I told you so.”

This situation should make you angry enough to start a Pit thread only if Roomie locked herself out and you had to come rescue her… In which case your response should have been along the lines of, “I’ll be home around 6:30 as usual. See you then!”

Yes it would! Two problems with them though, they are too lazy to have to unlock and lock the door every time they want a beer/coke and they would lose the key in the garage. That thing is so full of random shit, I have found 3 phones, plugged in, in there that they lost!!! Craziness! How can people have so much shit that even when a phone rings they can’t find it??? :wink:

Side note, I feel like they only pretend that they would care if they got robbed. They are in such a rut it would be beneficial to them. My dad leaves his car keys in the cars in the driveway. His 2011 camaro!!! MY future baby!!! He WANTS in to be stolen, so he can report it, get money because it’s under warranty and completely insured, so he can buy a new car. My mom won’t let him sell it for 10 years.
Some people just don’t care about material possessions unless they are sentimental possessions. My parents have such a hard time getting rid of stuff they would secretly love to not have to if it got stolen.

My grandfolks pull this same bullshit with the garage door which actually manages to be a step up from when they didn’t lock anything at all ever despite being burglarized.

I don’t understand the fatalistic “if someone wants to get in they will” logic. I can understand it as a limiting factor, I’m not going to install a laser grid and a moat. It’s still ridiculous not to lock your doors. Thieves probably aren’t staking out your house and planing a heist, they’re opportunistic and leaving a door unlocked is pure foolishness.

If you have a key hidden, I would consider it a completely acceptable substitute for carrying a key on your person. The point is to ensure you have access to a key that can open your front door.

What I consider unwise is reliance on a electrically powered garage door opener to allow access to your home. These are devices that require electric power and have a large number of parts that all have to work together to open the door. If any one of the parts fail, you have a closed door and cannot access your house.

I rarely leave the house any more, but back when I did, and had the wolf hybrid, I left my spare key to the back door on his collar. I had no trouble getting it when I needed to use it :smiley:

Now we have a settable combination locking back doorknob. I can give a guest their own combination when I want to =)

Gee golly, you’re right. On the off chance something like that happens once every decade, the homeowner may find himself inconvenienced for 90 minutes while he waits for the locksmith, his wife, the neighbor, or the power company.

Talk about unwise.:rolleyes:

We use biometric, but have keys for the front door.

We all make our own choices. One time a decade the non-key person is stuck sitting in the cold waiting to pay a locksmith $100 to let him in his own house, or waiting for a friend to come to his rescue. Me, I put a door key on my key ring, and don’t get locked out my house.

Yeah, but the fact that it would happen infrequently is still not a good justification for not keeping a key on you anyway.

It’s one key. My keyring has ~10 keys and STILL doesn’t take up that much space.

I just don’t get it.

Question for those saying variations of, “Only an idiot would leave the door between the house/garage unlocked” (assuming attached garage, of course):
Which way does your door to the garage open? Into the house or into the garage? If it opens into the garage, then locking it is a huge waste of time, and I state this from personal experience.
I got locked out of the house one time because I’d left the house in a hurry for a bit of an emergency and forgot to double-check that I had my key. When I got back home, I found I couldn’t get in. No biggie, I could just use the keypad on the garage to open the garage door, then go through the inner door. (I don’t park in the garage, it’s my workshop.)
Only, once I got in the garage, I found some helpful soul had apparently locked the door from inside the house, with the lock that is not keyed and only accessible from inside.
I thought I was well and truly stuck, then I realized the hinges were exposed. I grabbed a hammer and a screwdriver that were readily available (remember, workshop), knocked out the hinge pins, and was inside almost as quickly as I would have been had I had to unlock the door. If I had to guess, it took me less than a minute to pop all three pins and remove the door.
If you’re sitting there and saying, “Ah-ha! My garage door opens into the house!” well, unless you lock it with a deadbolt, or have a pick-guard installed, it’s going to be opened with a credit card or thin piece of metal faster than you can unlock it with a key.

Long and short of it is, no, locking the inner door is not going to give any added security. Once someone is inside the garage where they have some cover to hide their activity, they’re going to be brazen enough to get the door open, either via mechanical manipulation or brute force. The key is to keep them from being able to get in the garage to begin with.

As far as the OP, meh, I put keyless entry on the front door after the lock-out incident, so chances of me carrying a key are 50/50. Haven’t been locked out once since then. It’s not really anything to raise a big stink over.

Yeah, it’s just terrible. My friend’s garage door broke a while back, and he actually had to open the 2nd garage door. Can you imagine having to do such a thing?

I’ve never met anyone who was locked out by their garage door. I’ve met about 200 people who have been locked out by forgetting keys that they ordinarily carry.

I was, which is why I started carrying a key on my key ring IN ADDITION to still utilizing the electronic garage door opener.

Crazy how that works.

What’s not to get? Many people have no reason to carry a key around, and run no risk of being locked out of their house. They don’t carry a house key for the same reason they don’t carry a chainsaw in their trunk every day.

“But what if a tree falls on your car??? What are you going to cut it off with? Are you just going to wait for the tree cutter?”

If they have no reason to carry a key to their own house on their person, then they either:

  1. Have an alternate way of entering their home that does not rely on electronics. This would include things like a key in a hidden area in your yard, shed, etc., having a window that you leave unlocked, etc.

OR

  1. They are willfully stupid

No shit. This is exactly what I am saying. Some people don’t carry keys because they don’t fucking need to.

Okay, that’s fine then.

You just started saying how “calling the electric company/your spouse/etc.” was a practical solution. I was more or less calling you out on how stupid that was.