Sorry. I apologize profusely to the homosexual community for any slander I may have caused them with this insensitive remark.
I’m curious why a poster named Eclectic Skeptic is signing his posts with the name of another poster, Estilicon. Did we forget which sock we are posting under?
I think that might have been a comment directed towards Estilicon rather than a signature.
In Latin, it’s called the dative form.
Gobear, do you think I’m signing your name to this post?
(damn my eyes for forgetting my Latin – it’s the vocative, not the dative!)
Daniel, who’s using some non-vocative form for the last sentence of this post
Ah, my apologies. I misunderstood.
As someone who is both very liberal and very much opposed to this war, you’re a fucking idiot. Wishing for the deaths of U.S. soldiers is monstrous. Incidentally, it is also incredibly detritimental to those of us who have legitimate reasons to oppose this war.
If this war is quick and there are few casualties, that is a good thing. Most of the people I know who oppose the war do so because they feel Bush is behaving recklessly and needlessly risking many lives by his actions. If we are lucky and few lives are lost, that doesn’t automatically make Bush’s decision right – he shouldn’t be unnecessarily risking American and Iraqi lives. And even if it did, there are more important things than your side being proven right.
Want to help re-elect Bush in 2004? Keep acting like a dipshit asshole. You would do far more good by just shutting the fuck up.
Troops don’t deserve to be disrespected, but that doesn’t mean we’ll agree with their actions, hence we’ll continue protesting.
Eclectic Skeptic wrote:
Oh fucking cry me a river, pinhead. For your information, real Americans are getting shot at while trying not to shoot civilians in that pisshole of a “sovereignty” you feel existed quite well under Saddam’s bootheel. If you and the other asshat wanna quote Marxist dogma, please, exercise your constitutional right. Oh wait, Estilicon might be able to blabber about anti-US shit, but what if he started dissing the Argentinian government in the streets? Hmmm, makes ya kinda wonder.
** FUCK YOU **
Hey, if those soldiers don’t want to die for their country, why did they join the military in the first place? The US aggression in Iraq is illegal and puts us up their with Nazi Germany. Those soldiers deserve to die for blindly following orders. If we have a Nuremberg trial, they could all be hanged. I wish for the deaths of all soldiers everywhere. The military consciousness is satanic and has no place on Earth. Why don’t you shut the fuck up, Giraffe?
For your information, moron, there were huge public demonstrations against the government in the streets of BUenos Aires recently. In fact, they forced the president to resign. That’s more than I can say for America right now.
Please read the stickey posted at the top of this forum. Oh and, fuck you.
That sticky only applies to wishing death upon another poster, like if I told you to drop dead, which I won’t because I enjoy arguing with you and all the other america love it or leave it types in this thread. Oh yeah, and you are a silly goose.
Listen to me: you honestly couldn’t be a more effective agent for the pro-war agenda if you were cheering at a Bush rally. You are worse than useless, you are actively counter-productive. If you truly cared about making the world a better place, you would focus on making a difference and actually convincing people, rather than basking in your own self-righteous anger.
Look, dipshit, this is the BBQ pit not the Unitarian Church. When I want the world to be a better place I write letters to my congressmen. When I want to vent my rage and self-righteous anger, I bask in the pit where it is balmy and warm.
Gobear I used all my skills in english to compose a beautifull rant about yourself in the form of a rather long poem. Not an small accompishment taking into account:
a) My already mentioned troublesome english.
b) my lack of imagination.
c) the fact that gobear doesn’t really rhyme with fucking moron.
And then you apologized, that work of art is now a bunch of scattered electrons, what a waste. I accept those apologies but please be more carefull next time, accusing a good doper like myself of such an horrible violation of the rules is no small issue 
Eclectic Skeptic, though, can have an issue with you , not because you accused him to be my alter ego (that is actually a compliment) but because you are comparing his english with mine. If he is a native speaker your ass is in the pit.
For your information, not that you care you seem to be a jingonistic illeterate, Argentina happens to be a democracy and believe me nothing I ever said about dubya can be compared with what we usually say about our president. Granted our democracy is still far from perfect but who can cast the first stone in this gloomy 2003?
Anyway, the last couple of days have been really hard for me, so many of my comments specially the one that started this whole controversy were way out of line. I would like to aplogize. It seems this war has turned me into an extremist I don’t like that, so I am placing myself under a moratorium, I won’t be participating in any other irak related thread for a couple of days I need to calm down.
Before closing the issue I will like to make a final statement, I don’t hate America (this is for you BF), I hate bush and everything he represents. In fact I have such an strong reaction to this war because I consider that america has betrayed itself once again. The land of Copland, Gershwin, Twain, Bierce, Berntein, Barber or Heinlem (to name only a few) does not deserve a maniac for president and neither do the rest of us (your president our leader). Ok I am off to take a cold shower.
Well, Estilicon has decided to chill, and so will I. However, Eclectic dyspeptic wrote:
[Dr. Huxtable] That’s the most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard of in my life[/Dr. H]
Can’t wait 'til spring break’s over…
Fair enough. Perhaps “support” is not the right word since it implies a more proactive action. Everyone has the right to be ambivalent.
I guess by “support” I mean not treating our soldiers like they are jackbooted Nazi thugs.
I’m sorry but you sound insane. You think high casualties now will make anyone stop and think about starting the next war? I have seen nothing in history to indicate that high casualties now will result in anything other than a lot of death and suffering.
If anyone would care to lay out a tenable and easily enunciated position by which I can publicly wish for and hope for an unsuccessful American war against Iraq, one that plays badly at home, provides little encouragement for following it up with another one of the same sort, and humiliates, as much as possible, the dangerously stupid US administration responsible for conducting it in this manner, while at the same time expressing my support and sympathy for our troops…
…and, yeah, following Sterra’s lead, their troops, too, then I’ll happily make use of it and give you credit for the elegant expression of same.