You Have to be This Smart to Ride this Board

I seem to remember the research being something about behaviors of people who take IQ tests. Something like that. Dang, I worked with her for at least a year; you’d think I would remember better. :frowning:

I’ll also correct the OP that IQ isn’t based on any sort of quotient anymore, but scaled according to a bell curve.

Sounds like West Texas.

And that reminds me of the joke about the Aggie who moved from Texas to Oklahoma, raising the average IQ of both states in the process. (Aggies are Texas A&M students. A great school, but for some reason traditionally the butt of many good-natured jokes.)

Thanks for the correction; I was just going by the past practice of spelling it out by what the initials stood for – Intelligence Quotient.

All I know is I’m so smart my brain hurts. :cool:

She didn’t say it all caps like.

I would just like to say one more thing, and then I doubt I’ll have anything else to add. For what it’s worth, the lady I worked for was blind from birth. She overcame that handicap to get her doctorate in English literature and become a fully tenured professor at a small college in Kansas. She then went on to work for and receive her doctorate in psychology from a major university in Texas. Myself, I don’t need some test to think she may have been smarter than the average bear.

Its sacrificial for the sake of the community. Sort of like Shirley Jackson’s The Lottery - but less random.

Cite?

http://www.a2zpsychology.com/articles/eq_and_iq.htm

Sorry, I’m not impressed by high IQ’s (least of all my own).

Yeah, sorry about the caps thing. I didn’t mean to emphasize the words that much. I just thought it odd if she found IQs meaningless.

We’re going to have to operate!

Being smart is like being tall, or good-looking, or athletic*: it’s nice and everything, but means nothing in itself.

*Me? Three outta four ain’t bad…

To the extent that this is definitely a request for hypothetical suggestions if this kind of requirement occurred anywhere anyway, this might be one solution.

However, aside from that, how would you then assure that the person taking the test is who they say they are?

How would you suggest measuring/confirming/weighting of general educational background, personality, quirkiness, etc.?

I definitely agree that IQ means nothing, in and of itself.

I tested quite high the one time I was “measured,” but because I didn’t apply myself when a high-quality college education was made available to me, I am not as well-read or as well-rounded as I’d like to be, and I haven’t travelled nearly enough, this sort of thing could expose serious shortcomings in myself.

Scissorjack, *thanks * for bringing those up. I’m not even good-looking. Now, what do I do.

You can’t.

I’ve been in a bookclub for going on 15 years. Its a bunch of women who are intellegent and quirky. Some of us have known each other since high school.

Sometimes we bring in a new member. Our invitations are pretty open - i.e. fairly early on we established the whole “we don’t uninvite, but we aren’t going out of our way to make you feel comfortable” rule.

We’ve tried many times to get new people to stick. And its hard to tell who will and who won’t. Sometimes, the person you think will fit great lasts have a meeting and runs out in fear before we serve dessert. And we have a few members that I though “oh, that won’t work at all” that have lasted years. Most don’t stick.

If we look at it, we are all alike in certain ways - probably smarter than average. A certain age (between 38 and 48 nowadays). Lean left politically. But some of us are married with kids and others never married. Some of us go to Church weekly, others are atheists. Most of us did a few years of RenFest, but it isn’t universal. Most of us have been to an SF Con or two (even run an SF Con or two), but that isn’t universal. Some of us have been friends for a very long time, others came along just a few years ago and stuck.

There isn’t a way to objectively test “stickiness.” I’ve had the most success in recruiting, and I do it by feeling (will this person be intimidated, will they feel left out when the stories turn to things that happened twenty five years ago, will they be able to share stories of their own, will they think the books we read “too odd.”)

Thanks for the thoughtful input.

Do you mind if I ask what’s your latest book club fare?

Slaughterhouse Five. Its part of a cycle of Catcher in the Rye, Of Mice and Men and Slaughterhouse Five…otherwise known as “books you read in high school - are they still meaningful?”

(Our best was the comic book/holocaust cycle. Maus I, Maus II and The Amazing Adventures of Cavalier and Clay)

That is so interesting because, right after I asked you what you were reading, I was watching a local news reporter’s interview with him before he died (of course it was before he died). He seemed so funny and personable, I decided to check out his writing, which I have not done so far. I’m not sure yet, but this might mean I should make it Slaughterhouse.

Sounds like a great book club also.

Thank goodness that one can post to this board regardless of IQ. I have no idea what my IQ is, but I sure as hell would not like it to be a qualifier for posting here.

Board doog. Like. I.

Use of IQ to predict later onset of dementia and Alzheimer’s - study reported in Psychiatry

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Longitudinal cohort study of childhood IQ and survival up to age 76

From the British Medical Journal - IQ associated with longevity -
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Intelligence and Other Predisposing Factors in Exposure to Trauma and Posttraumatic Stress Disorder

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Success in school and total years of education are also have significant correlations with IQ. (.50 and .55) –

I remembered reading an article about this study in the weekend paper. Thought I’d look it up on the Net and add it here –

(Each IQ point raises income between $234 and $616 per year - but IQ might have some inverse relationship to overall wealth)

**Abstract

How important is intelligence to financial success? Using the NLSY79, which tracks a large group of young U.S. baby boomers, this research shows that each point increase in IQ test scores raises income by between $234 and $616 per year after holding a variety of factors constant. Regression results suggest no statistically distinguishable relationship between IQ scores and wealth. Financial distress, such as problems paying bills, going bankrupt or reaching credit card limits, is related to IQ scores not linearly but instead in a quadratic relationship. This means higher IQ scores sometimes increase the probability of being in financial difficulty.**

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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W4M-4NC50MC-1&_user=208309&_coverDate=03%2F28%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000014358&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=208309&md5=70b8bb1f282333cbe0faeaa903ffb393