You may go to hell, I'm going to Texas. Suggestions?

Not the first place someone from Hawaii would go for a vacation, but we’re a-goin’. My wife is having a conference and I’ll be accompanied by my two little ones (yep, I got another one).

Her conference is in Dallas, but we’re doing the city trifecta: a couple days in Houston, then San Antonio, before heading to Dallas. We’re doing some of the bigger attractions:

Houston: Johnson Space Center. How long should I allow there, if we don’t do the Tram ride?

San Antonio: Riverwalk and I hear tell there’s some historic mission downtown

Dallas: State Fair (during the OU-Texas game; the fair should be less busy after the game starts, right?)

So, what else would you recommend? It doesn’t necessarily have to be kid-oriented. Anya had a blast in NYC, and we didn’t really focus on kiddie-stuff.

Especially places to eat. We don’t care about looking touristy. I’m sure the San Antonio ethnic neighborhoods have the best food, but I’d rather eat on the Riverwalk. That sort of thing.

Oh, and where are some nice places to shoot skyline photos?

Take the time and hit Lockhart. Kreuz, Smitty’s, Black’s…it’s all good. Personally, I prefer Smitty’s. Try the sausage.

Some good places to eat on the Riverwalk, but they put ice in my single malt, so I refuse to patronize them ever again. Hit Mi Tierra for breakfast. Or lunch. Or dinner.

Go to the top of the Tower of the Americas for some great views of the city.

Perhaps my least favorite stretch of Texas Highway is I-35 between Austin and Dallas. If time isn’t an issue, I’d recommend that when you go from San Antonio to Dallas that you take 281 up. A little ways west of 35, it’s less traffic and much prettier scenery as it’ll take you through the heart of the Hill Country and the Lampassas Cut Plain.

If you were going to be in Houston a little longer, I would suggest checking out CityPass. They do ticket booklets for different attractions, and will save a good bit of money. We used them on our last trip to Atlanta, and I was extremely impressed. Only problem is that you have to use the tickets witin nine days: so you’d be cramming a lot of sight-seeing in two days time.

The Reunion Tower in Dallas has a great view of the surrounding area. Wolfgang Puck just put in a new fancy-schmancy restaurant up at the top - the whole thing is revolving, so by the time your entree arrives you have a whole different view.

There, that takes care of food and views, all at once!

When are you coming? The weather here in Dallas is nice and cool, right now.

Missed the Edit window. Damn hamsters! :smiley:

Oh, and CityPass also has insider tips: they suggest allowing 4-5 hours to see everything at the Space Center. I’ve never been myself, but it’s on our agenda for the next year or so!

Do the River Walk just to say you did, but don’t do it on a Fri or Sat evening. It’s a zoo. Eating on the River Walk can be a pain. You really feel like you are in a zoo then. To eat, get up off the river and go to the aforementioned Mi Tierra. Or any one of a thousand nicer, quieter, better restaurants nearby.

Did you say you’d be in Dallas on OU weekend? I did that once when I was 18 years old and doubt I could handle it again. You, sir, are a braver man than I.

ETA: If you use the public parking garages in downtown SA, TAKE CASH!!!

Hell is in Michigan.

In Dallas, you can now ride DART to the State Fair and avoid the traffic that day.

Ojedas was good enough for Bill Clinton. Excellent Tex-Mex restaurant. Monica’s is also excellent. Uncle Julio’s and El Fenix are also popular and quite good.

The JFK Museum is a bit pricey, but it is probably worth a visit since you’re coming from so far away.

We’ll be just extending a layover by a few days in Houston, so we’re actually flying from Houston to Dallas.

We are doing the drive from Houston to San Antonio. And, yes, it will be Friday in San Antonio.

purplehorseshoe, we’ll be in Dallas next week. Can we just go up the Reunion Tower only in the restaurant? I thought we might grab a dessert and drinks up there. Then again, I am bringing my two little ones.

dalej42, we are doing the DART into the fair. The conference is in the Hilton Anatole, apparently walking distance to the DART.

So is Christmas.

IMHO, there’s not a lot to do in downtown Dallas that is particularly kid friendly. Or at least, there wasn’t when I lived there but that’s been 10 years ago. I always enjoyed the West End Marketplace. Any of the Tex-Mex places will be delicious.

If you have a car: the Dallas Zoo, the Fort Worth Zoo (which is better than the Dallas Zoo IMHO), the Fort Worth Stockyards and Six Flags over Texas would all be fun for the kids.

Prepare to be unimpressed with the mission in downtown San Antonio.

ETA: The Japanese Gardens in Fort Worth are kind of cool. The kids would probably be impressed with all of the Koi.

I’d echo Nars, there’s lots of fun stuff spread between Dallas and Fort Worth, and they’re just about 30 min apart by car. I’d definitely try to squeeze in the Fort Worth Stock Yards, if you’re not burnt out on Old West/Cowboy atmosphere by that point.

The Fort Worth Zoo definitely beats the Dallas Zoo, but Dallas does have their Dallas World Aquarium, which is a nice amount of indoor fun, and it’s near the West End Marketplace mentioned above.

In between Dallas and Forth Worth, the city of Arlington has gotten press for being the new home of the fancy Cowboys Stadium. Not much to see there, but there’s that and the Texas Rangers Ballpark for sports. The real reason I bring it up, is because Arlington is also home to Six Flags over Texas (a general theme park, renown for its roller coasters), and Hurricane Harbor (a water themed park, best in the summer months).

And one final note, about Fair Park and the Texas - OU game. Football is a religion in Texas, slightly edging out the Southern Baptists, so it will be a bit crazy around then. Despite this, the State Fair will do its best to try and keep the fair crowds and football crowds from interfering with each other. I do recommend trying one of the rail services to get there, as traffic/parking in the area is scary on good days. And for time, looks like the game starts early at 11am, so you’re instinct is good - try not to go out there before noon at least, 1pm might be better. Anticipate heavy crowds leaving the area after that.

Don’t know how old your little ones are but there is The Mid Evil Times.

The food is crap but kids really dig it because you eat everything with your hands and the show is pretty entertaining. (Even for an adult.)

Yeah, I figure if I get started shortly after kickoff, I should be good to go while most people are in the stadium or watching it on TV.

Johnson Space Center is some distance from downtown Houston. While in my city, consider The Museum of Natural Science. Dinosaurs! The Museum District includes the Children’s Museum, plus the Zoo.

San Antonio has The Witte Museum–which has a bunch of child-oriented exhibits. It’s in Breckenridge Park. The Zoo was great when I was a kid; haven’t been in a long time. The Japanese Garden is free & fun for a visit, but is closing for repairs October 22nd.

As a kid & Davy Crockett fan, I was impressed by The Alamo. Nearby is the Menger Hotel; a quick walk through the historic lobby might be fun. Both are right next to the River Walk–which is less crowded early in the day.

The other missions are close to town. San Jose is the biggest & worth a visit. (Also, free!) The Mercado is central, with restaurants & shops–from fine galleries to cheapo souviner shops. You don’t need to search out “ethnic” neighborhoods for restaurants–most of the city is pretty ethnic & there are good places to eat everywhere. (Need some recent recommendations!)

Don’t have much recent information on the Metroplex–but the State Fair was fun as a kid. (And I wouldn’t mind returning as an adult.)

I went on the canal tour in Houston a couple of years ago and that was nice. And it’s free.

And if you’re looking for places to eat, check out Goode’s.

The best zoo in Dallas is not the Dallas Zoo. The Dallas World Aquarium, which is an indoor rain forest, basically, is AMAZING. I don’t know if I can do it justice, it’s one of the few zoos I’ve ever seen which truly shows the diversity of life instead of just a handful of showpiece species placed in generic settings(although the best zoos are getting better about this, many are not).

If you’re in town on Sunday, you’re in for a treat. Dallas is celebrating the opening of a new Arts Center downtown with a full week of performances, food, previews and all kinds of arts in the downtown arts district, culminating in a fireworks show on Sunday at 7:30. There is a full week of cool stuff planned though, including walkthroughs of the new opera and theatre spaces, concerts, and talks by the architects about the buildings. They’re V cool looking.

Of course the State Fair is not to be missed. My wife and I were there on Tuesday night and it was a lot of fun. I recommend you give the fried butter a miss(it’s like a thick and extremely rich donut hole), but don’t miss the deep fried peaches and cream. Ride/food coupons are very expensive, and parking will be at least $10, but riding the Texas Star is something everyone who has the chance should do once in a lifetime. Daytime is best(better views) but seeing the city at night can be pretty too. You’ll probably be in line for a while if you go on the weekend though. While you’re in Fair Park, swing by The Museum of Nature and Science which has a current exhibit on The Science of Spying. We haven’t hit it yet, but the reviews say it’s great fun for the Kim Possible fans out there. Also at the Fairgrounds, in the Music Hall is the Broadway tour of Mary Poppins(Video plays when you open the link). The Broadway Mary and Bert are headlining the tour. We saw it on Tuesday night and while we didn’t take our kids, the kids in the audience loved it. It’s a very well produced show with a lot of flash. I’d recommend trying for tickets in the center first balcony. They’re cheaper than orchestra but are actually better seats for this venue and especially for this show, which takes up all the stage and then some.

The West End is a shadow of its former self, I would give it a miss entirely, especially on Texas-OU weekend. About the only thing I’d say is worth doing there is the 6th Floor Museum and the kids may be a little to young to care about the Kennedy assassination. My little ones snoozed through most of it. Reunion Tower is nice, but expensive and really a pretty generic revolving restaurant. There’s one in San Antonio in Tower of the Americas that you could hit if you’re interested in the revolving tower restaurant thing.

Outside of the downtown area, you’re in time for Autumn at the Arboretum. If the slideshow on the homepage doesn’t make you want to go, then give it a miss, but damn it’s beautiful and wonderful for kids. We try to go once or twice a year, in the Spring for Dallas Blooms, and in the fall for the Pumpkin Festival. If there’s one thing I wish got mentioned more about Dallas in the tourist brochures and advertising, it’s the arboretum. On the shores of White Rock Lake, it’s just beautiful, especially around sunset.

There’s a site run by the local public radio station which is probably the best way to find events and activities for a specific timeframe. Stuff which is open most of the time, like Six Flags, Medieval Times, or the Dallas World Aquarium, may not be on there unless they’re having an event, but the Art and Seek site is a great way to find stuff to do in DFW.

On the Fort Worth side of the metroplex, you’ll be in town when the oldest known work by Michaelangelo, The Torment of Saint Anthony comes back home to the beautiful Kimbell Museum of Art. Seeing any of Michaelangelo’s work is a rare treat, but this piece is something special. He painted it when he was very young (12-13). If you’re looking for something to inspire your kids, this may well be it. The cafe in the Kimbell has a fantastic quiche Florentine.

Some of the Ft. Worth dopers may weigh in with other stuff happening there, but the big events during the time you’ll be there are probably going to be on the Dallas side with the PAC opening and the Fair.

As far as food goes, Dallas has a plethora of great restaurants. The main problem is getting to them from where you are because Dallas/Ft. Worth has some serious urban sprawl. If you decide on an itinerary and what parts of town you’ll be in at various times, specific recommendations can be made. I’d recommend you get a good BBQ, and a good Tex-Mex, and of course eat at the Fair once. Other than that, it’s hard to go wrong with food in Dallas.

Enjoy,
Steven

That mission in downtown San Antonio is, ahem, THE ALAMO!

Be ready for it be smaller than expected, but then you apparently have never heard of it. Only the Thermopylae of western civilization ferchrisake!

Sorry, we’re very proud of it down here.

If you do go, take the tour. It doesn’t make a lot of sense otherwise.