You poor lonely conservative in the SDMB sea of liberals

Do you stand by your endorsement of ethnic cleansing (refer post #53)?

Anyway, getting back to the numbers, if you can name 100 different conservatives that are still here it’ll still represent only 2.5% of all paying members of the SDMB. Compare that to the notion that Bush has at least 50% of the vote this year and the Republicans will almost definitely win the House and Senate again.

And you still have the stones to say that conservatives aren’t outnumbered here by a substantial margin. It is to laugh. This place is a liberal sausage fest, and for you to try to claim otherwise is an absolute lie.

Why, certainly! Always happy to oblige the peanut gallery. Refer, if you will, to your post #31 in this very thread. You came from out of nowhere (I had had no discourse with you at that point; indeed you hadn’t even posted to thread up to that point) to snipe at me, and then disappeared. (You do eventually make a non-SA-related contribution, but it follows even the post I’m anwering now.)

Your only purpose in your only post to this thread up to now was to insult me. It had nothing to do with the OP, and you contributed no other information to the thread, even by way of a hijack.

Therefore, you are a sniping buttpipe.

Cheers. :smiley:

Wd: * I ask again, Why? Why do you feel the need to label me a conservative? Sure, I am conservatrive on some issues, but I am also very liberal on others. What purpose does it serve other than to nurture the “If you’re not with us 100% than you’re against us 100%” attitude that is tearing this country apart?*

Well you know, this thread was originally started in response to comments from conservatives about how isolated and outnumbered they are on this board. If you don’t want DMC to put you in the “conservative” box without acknowledging your liberal aspects, you should also go ask Shodan, Mr. Moto, Debaser, and Starving Artist why they’re not acknowledging your conservative aspects. People who continue to insist that there are only “a few”, “three or four”, “a handful” of conservative posters here are wilfully overlooking the partial conservatism of people like yourself, just as much as DMC is overlooking your partial liberalism.

AD: *Anyway, getting back to the numbers, if you can name 100 different conservatives that are still here it’ll still represent only 2.5% of all paying members of the SDMB. […] And you still have the stones to say that conservatives aren’t outnumbered here by a substantial margin. *

My dear, you surely aren’t trying to argue that because only, say, 100 posters are clearly identified from their habitual participation in political threads as politically conservative that therefore we can assume that all the rest are clearly identified as politically liberal?!?

That’s way fallacious. I think it’s quite evident that the majority of SDMB members aren’t in the subset of GD regulars who routinely participate in political threads, so we have no way of knowing what their political affiliations, if any, are.

More realistic assessments, like John’s recap of the GD’s ideology-poll thread, show that among the political junkies around here, on non-fiscal issues the liberals outnumber the conservatives by about 7 to 1, and on fiscal issues by about 5 to 3. Not anything like 87.5 to 2.5, as you’re implying. Gracious, Airman, pull yourself together.

Er, that would have been 97.5 to 2.5 that you were implying.

I’d put good money on the fact that I’m the only poster on the SDMB who could put his hand in his pocket, get out his wallet and pull out a card - properly printed and everything that has my name on it and the word “conservative” on it, with a membership number as well…

Ladies and Gentlemen - I am a card carrying Conservative and I’m proud!

(Do I win a prize?).

Erm so fucking what?

There are more whites that blacks on the board.

There are way more right wing Americans(even a lot of the “liberals”) than people like me (pinko commie Euro)

There are more Americans on the board than any other nationality.

So fucking what?

Quit moaning about how you’re outnumbered amd just fight your own corner.

Boy, the subjects that get word play around here. Who would ever have thought this subject would generate so much word play…but I digress.

Ahem. As one of those who has made reference to “four,” or a “handful” of conservatives on this board, may I point out, yet again (for it seems our liberal friends here just love to jump on something they feel they can refute with numbers) that I was kidding around. I was joking. I know there are more than four or five conservatives here. Shall I say it again? I know there are more than four or five conservative posters around here.

I was being facetious!

Jeez, lighten up!

(Of course, this in no way obviates the fact that conservatives are vastly outnumbered around here.) :smiley:

P.S.: Zoe, how ya doin? Long time, no see. :slight_smile:

I agree that the political compass thread is a far better indicator than the method of counting the number of people you believe fit into a particular category and comparing that number to the total number of Board members. The key is participation: someone may be to the right of Jesse Helms or to the left of Stalin and say very little; their influence here is questionable at best.

I suspect I’m among the more socially conservative posters here: pro-life, anti-drug legalization, anti-prostitution legalization, in favor of stronger burbs on pornography, disfavoring gun control. There are less of my ilk than there are fiscal conservatives, to be sure. And even I favor same-sex marriage - to be decided by the states, to be sure, but even that concession would be anathema to some of my brethern in the real world.

  • Rick

I’m putting my hand up as a conservative too. I’d also like to say on the record that no, I don’t think there is an official liberal bias on these boards. I do however, think my liberal friends need to lighten up sometimes. We conservatives are NOT about to eat your babies.

I’d give my stance on gay marriage, etc but I fear you’d not believe me.

Don’t forget also that those of us non-US Conservatives have quite wildly different ideas from the US model: For Instance I thinks drugs are a medical problem and should be dealt with thus, not treated as some form of social issue.

I would also legalize prostitution (actually it IS legal in Britain - but complicated).

I couldn’t care less what people do with their pudenda - just so long as the horses remain unfrightened.

We also tend not have the religious element in our conservatism here (for instance Tony Blair is the most openly religious PM we’ve had in years).

However I am strongly in favour of both gun-control and some level of socialised medicine (although I would change the system we have here), I also wouldn’t completely wipe out the welfare state.

SA: * I know there are more than four or five conservative posters around here. I was being facetious! *

Fine, but make up your mind. Just a few posts ago you said:

And you also said:

Just to clear things up: if you don’t literally mean that there are only “four or five conservative posters around here”, but you do literally mean that “this place is overwhelmingly liberal”, then how liberal do you actually think it is? What’s your serious, factual take on the question of the extent to which liberals outnumber conservatives? And do you think it can accurately be called “overwhelming”?

At present, you seem to be dancing around the issue by using vague terms like “overwhelmingly” in an apparently serious way, and then when we call you on specific estimates like “four”, retreating into the protest that you were obviously only joking.

Looks like a wanted poster :smiley:

What owlstretchingtime said. I hold dear many traditional leftist social values, but on the whole I remain completely fiscally conservative and mostly socially so. I loathe political correctness, paternalism, and the nanny state. These things are suffocating us IMHO. Still, the main thing is that no left-handed blind Nepalese trapeze artists get offended, eh?

Put it this way: my son doesn’t even know what a see-saw (teeter-totter) is, due to our current scared, litigious society. Thst is why I’m a conservative.

Well, I wouldn’t call it dancing around the issue, but essentially you are right. I am joking when I say the board only has four or five conservative posters, but I am serious when I say conservatives are vastly outnumbered here. I have no “serious, factual take” on the ratio, because I’ve never wondered about it nor looked into it. I am quite confident, for example, that the Empire State Building exists; but I have never felt the need to travel to New York City and verify it for myself. Same here. Why belabor the obvious?

It’s the SDMB mate. Tell 'em you had a crap this morning, and they’ll be yelling “CITE?”

I think what the problem is with these boards, and the lefties therein, is that they all have to post “me too” posts to display their liberal/leftie credentials.

They simply can’t leave it to someone else.

So what you get is a leftie pile-on on any Conservative who shows his head above the parapet.

Frankly this doesn’t bother me – I can look after myself (and it’s always the usual suspects – the offenderati)

I do wonder though: if I were a little more of a shrinking violet and had just discovered these boards if I would bother to pony up for the privilege of being piled on.

I just console myself with the knowledge that all their women have hairy legs!

SA: * I am serious when I say conservatives are vastly outnumbered here. I have no “serious, factual take” on the ratio*

If you don’t have any quantitative idea of what you mean when you use words with quantitative implications like “overwhelmingly outnumbered” or “vastly outnumbered”, then you are simply pulling such terms out of your ass.

As TheLoadedDog points out, when people make factual assertions around here, we like to see them justified by factual evidence.

I’d like to apologise for my conservative colleague owlstretchingtime’s comment above. He didn’t mean it of course.

He meant womyn! :smiley:

I meant BINTS!