You'd think a *school nurse* could spot head lice!

I am a member of the lice brigade at my kid’s school. We check the heads of all the kids in school after any vacation longer than a three day weekend. We all stand in the teacher’s lounge, which has a large table, they come in in groups of about ten at a time and so it goes until we are done. The preschoolers are done by two vother volunteers in a different room, because of the wiggle factor of ten preschoolers in one place. We have a UV light thingie to shine on their heads in case of uncertinty, looks like a little laser show if the child has lice.

Interestingly, no one ever checked the teachers until one of them came in and plunked herself down one day. Thereafter all the teachers and sides coem in too.

The main actions of the school are preventative – for instance, all the kids have to use lice capes on their jacket hooks, which are like plastic bags covering the jacket. Hats and scarves and gloves go under the cape. They have lessons nwo and again on how not to spread lice and so on.

When a kid has lice, though, all the other kids know it immediately, because they are in the room. A letter goes to the parents of the kids who have lice explaining how to treat it and prevent its spread and what to do with your textiles and so on – here the advice is to put bedding and toys and so on in a garbage bag and set it out of doors, which is differnt from when I was young and they said to wash it all in hot water with bleach as I recall. The info is written by the agency which handles youth health in the area. A letter also goes out to the rest of the class saying that lice was found in the class and how to check for them and what to look for.

Around here they don’t care what treatment you use, they say at the agency that the most effective approach is in fact combing and not the shampoos. Whether the child comes to school the next day depends on the parents, I have never heard of a child excluded from school for lice though I suppose it could happen. There was a child whose parents just for whatever reason didn’t get with the program and also refused permission to have the child’s head checked. This was handled by many, many meetings with the parents in an effort to persuade them of the error of their ways. (this last appears to me, as a foreigner, to be a hallmark of the Dutch approach to many things, which is based in a consensus notion of resolving problems – they assume you will get with the program. If you fail to do so, you get a meeting with, say, the teacher in an effort to explain the program. Followed by the principal, the health care professional assigned to the school, her boss, and I assume ending with the Dutch version of Family and Children’s Services as necessary.)

However, they are most forthright about the fact of somebody being infested.

Wow, thanks for the (hah!) heads up! I’ll definitely see about getting one of those!

Also, I’ve never had a nit comb worth the packaging it came in. Any recommendations from my fellow nit-pickers in Doperland?

I believe someone upthread mentioned Licemeister. Google it if you like. Two notes about it: one, it’s pricey. Usually about $15.00. Also, many pharmacies sell them, but keep them behind the counter (to avoid theft, I’d assume, since they’re small but expensive). They are much sturdier than a lot of other nit combs, and are built to survive many boilings as well as many uses.

I don’t know if these are available in the States but I find them way better than the little short ones that come with the treatments. The tines are long enough to get through my daughters’ hair and they’re angled so you don’t miss much.
http://www.nittygritty.co.uk/products/?gclid=COKzqseY3Z0CFU0A4wodPTL4Mw

From their faq:
Overseas Orders
“All overseas orders will clearly show the delivery cost before you check out or pay for your goods.
We only charge approximately what it cost us to send your order overseas, unlike many other companies, who make a big profit out of their delivery charges.”

I googled it and couldn’t seem to find it available in America anywhere, but it seems the company will ship to here. Looks like a great product!

I sort of look at it like it’s something that needs to be dealt with swiftly and seriously, otherwise it gets really widespread. It’s amazing we can’t eradicate those little fuckers completely.

Well, given that we haven’t been able to eradicate cockroaches yet, either. . .:smack:

Well this is timely. My youngest daughter came home from school yesterday with a note that someone in her class had lice, that they had checked all the other students, and my daughter was clean. I asked the teacher which child had it, and of course she couldn’t tell me. Luckily my daughter had no such compunction, and told me exactly which kid in her class had the lice, and that her parents used special conditioner on her, and today her hair smells REAL BAD. I was amused at her ratting out her friend so easily, until a few hours later when the little snitch told my wife that I had been complaining about all the dirty dishes my wife had left in the sink.

Oh, I feel your daughter’s pain. In the 5th grade, I caught it from a girl who had them so bad that there were loads of nits clearly visible all over her hair. Started scratching. Got sent to the nurse. After searching my thick (but fairly straight) hair for half an hour, she found nothing. A few days later I found one under my fingernail.

As a last resort, you can slather petroleum jelly on her hair. This is what finally worked for me after a year of spraying, constant sheets-washing, comb boiling, and hair-washing with prescription lice shampoo. The downside, it stays in your hair for a week, even if you scrub with Dawn. Some comedian will say you look like a wetback. The upside, it stays in your hair for a week, covering the entire lifecycle of the bugs and probably suffocating them. You won’t get re-infested in the meantime.

That is absolute bull. Prescription treatments?? What if you can’t afford it? What if you’re allergic, or otherwise sensitive, to the chemicals? That stuff can be awfully harsh.

I got to stop reading threads like this

scritch scritch scritch

All right, everybody, I’m gonna make you stop scratching your heads. I present to you one of my finest staff reports: Pinworms.

Hey, I just said that I’d make you quit scratching your heads. I didn’t say that I’d make you quit scratching.

Well, as I posted, it’s possible (as in I heard a rumor) that her school requires that. Not that they actually do. Really, though, whatever treatment route you go with, you’d better be ready to lay out a big chunk of change! Even if you just use the cheap hair conditioner and a nit comb, there’s the cost of the comb (decent ones are spendy), rolls and rolls of paper towels for wiping them on, three times as much shampoo as you normally use so you can wash the conditioner out, extra laundry detergent so you can launder everything, etc. There’s no way to get out of it cheap! This is a very poor area, and I’m guessing for most of the people around here, the prescription stuff is the cheap way to go because most of the folks around here are on some form of Children’s Health Insurance, which covers 100% of the cost of doctor’s visit, and 100% of the cost of a prescription.

At this point, though, what the school requires in terms of lice treatment is looking to not be an issue. We are handling the problem here at home, and mudgirl is still running a fever, and vomited again this morning. So no school until at least Friday. Before anyone asks, I’m taking her to the doctor today.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

runs away screaming

Urgh - do NOT use petroleum jelly.

A friend of mine made that mistake when her daughter had lice - they’d done the initial treatments and thought the problem was solved, and when they found them again they decided to go nuclear. On the whole family.

Well, the vaseline did the job but as my friend said, their hair was “indescribably greasy”. As you noted, even Dawn didn’t remove it.

I’d personally stick with a thick dose of conditioner, or some sort of food-grade oil (we used olive or almond). Yeah, you have to do it every day or so and comb through each time, but at least you can shampoo it out after each treatment and go around looking somewhat normal for most of the day until time to do it again.

I have heard that this is frequently sited as “the cure is worse than the disease”. For now, we’re sticking with coconut conditioner and a nit comb and lots and lots of paper towels!

Poor kid.

Right next to what used to be called Lipton Onion Soup Mix (and is now Recipe Secrets) is dried Noodle Soup. This is far tastier than canned chicken noodle soup, IMO, and might be something that she can keep down.

I put Vaseline on my hair, once. I thought that since Vaseline is supposed to be a wonderful moisturizer, that it would be good for my hair. Well, my hair wasn’t particularly moisturized, but it WAS greasy for about two weeks, despite numerous shampoos. I don’t recommend putting Vaseline on hair, unless the hair is maybe half an inch or shorter.

Well, when she gets like this, she doesn’t want soup at all. She will sometimes drink a cup of hot chicken broth/stock (I get the kind in a box; I think it beats the hell out of the canned stuff!)

When I went to pick up her 'script this morning, I asked if there was anything she thought she would eat, and she said Popsicles. So I got her a box of Popsicles, the ‘traditional’ flavors: grape/orange/cherry/banana. She’s eating a banana Popsicle right now.

Good luck with your daughter, Norinew.

Our kids just got sent home with lice. My wife got a call at 10AM yesterday and told to come get the kids. When she got there, there were 10 other kids waiting for parents. This is our first foray into the nastiness of lice, and I don’t think anyone is enjoying it. We used Nix last night and did a comb through. I found a few, but suspect I missed a bunch. I am going to try a UV light tonight to see if they are easier to spot.

I heard about this comb about a month ago, but did not have the foresight to buy it.

Anyone heard of any preventative treatments (since it is in the wild at school)? I’d read something about a mint oil spray, but wonder if anyone has experience with it?

I actually found the two-sided comb shown here to be useful - I’d use the long, widely-spaced teeth to separate out a thin ribbon of hair, then use the short nit-teeth to comb through that ribbon of hair. I believe it came with one of the Nix kits that we bought.

Some hints in a thread I started a couple of years back:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431235&highlight=lice

I actually bought the Robi-Comb mentioned there, and found it less than useful (my review at Amazon mentions “invisible flying lice”) but I know people who swear by it.