Your Opinion/Experience: What's in a "Caesar salad"?

I’ve never been much of a tossed-salad eater, especially those made by other people or in restaurants, because I’m not overly fond of a lot of the raw veggies that tend to go into those things: cabbage, onions, tomato, cucumber, etc. But I do like a nice Caesar salad. In my experience and to my best knowledge, here’s what goes into a traditional Caesar salad:

  • Romaine lettuce
  • shredded or shaved Parmesan
  • croutons
  • Caesar dressing (a creamy, garlicky affair with black pepper), lightly coating the entire salad rather than served on the side or glopped on top
  • optional: cracked pepper, cooked chicken

Yesterday, Mr. S and I stopped in to the local diner, which, while not a four-star establishment by any means, usually does a tolerable impression of most foods and has a wide selection. You can get Mexican, pasta, steak, fish, breakfast, meatloaf, etc. Yes, they use those awful frozen and/or canned vegetables, all the chicken-based soups are that horrible food-service yellow-green color, and the waitresses all call you “hon.” But there’s generally good service and decent food, and since our burg doesn’t really offer much else besides fast food and supper clubs, we usually go there when we’re too lazy to cook.

So anyway, yesterday I notice on the specials board that they’re now offering a “Caesar salad.” Cool! So I order it. The first thing the waitress (not one of our “usuals”) asks is if I want ranch dressing with it. Uh-oh. As Mr. S pointed out later, this should have been my first clue. But I pressed on. “Um, do you have a Caesar dressing for it?” So she calls over to the owner, who’s sitting in the booth behind us, and he tells her that “they have it in the kitchen, it comes out all ready.” Oh, OK. So she puts a cup of ranch dressing in front of me anyway (I have no idea why) and we wait for our meals.

The “Caesar salad” comes.

Well, it had croutons, anyway.

First of all, it was on a HOT plate. Who serves a salad on a hot plate? Second, the lettuce was the usual iceberg, bad enough in itself, but it was also mostly that horrid CORE of the iceberg, the yellow, bitter part, which I despise. Third, it had carrots and red cabbage liberally distributed throughout, in addition to the croutons. Fourth, not only was the dressing most definitely NOT Caesar (my best guess is some sort of creamy Italian), but it was so thickly applied as to be almost soupy and extremely unappetizing. And fifth, no cheese whatsoever. It was, overall, the ugliest salad I had ever seen. I took a few bites and did not touch it again.

Luckily I had also ordered a sandwich, so I didn’t starve.

The waitress brought the bill and asked if I wanted the salad packed to go. I said “No, thank you,” which was met with a blank stare and “What’s the matter, didn’t you like it?” I forget exactly how I phrased my reply, but I said (politely) that this bore very little resemblance to what I considered a Caesar salad. We then closed the conversation with a few friendly comments about the weather (big snowstorm just ending), I left her a 20% tip, and we left.

What say you Dopers? True, this was about the furthest departure from what I consider a “Caesar salad” that I’ve ever seen – sometimes they come with a few carrot slivers on top, or a cuke on the side. But this was over the top!

Am I a Caesar salad snob for wanting just the ingredients I listed above?

From what I know it looks to me like you have the basic recipe down, only you are missing the anchovies. And the dressing should have some anchovy paste in it too. Look at this. The egg has always been in the dressing in my experience.

Look at this. Sorry about that.

Ooh, anchovies, really? I’ve NEVER gotten anchovies. :: pout ::

Anchovies absolutely. Can’t be a Caesar salad without anchovies. Just ain’t right without them. I like a lightly boiled egg as well in the mix.

What you got served sounds like a complete abomination. We need a spewing smilie.

I don’t think they normally put anchovies on it, because not a lot of people like them*. And raw egg is a no-no, due to the possiblity of salmonella poisoning.

*Now there will be fifty Dopers chiming in that they just loooooove anchovies and eat them with everything, including chocolate cake. :smiley:

I just looooove anchovies and I eat them with everything, even chocolate cake! :wink:

Seriously, the OP’s complaint is becoming a huge pet peeve of mine. The lettuce MUST be romaine, the cheese MUST be parmesan (freshly shredded, not that grated crap from a can) and the salad should be tossed before serving, so the dressing is already lightly covering the leaves. And yes, it MUST be Caesar dressing, not Ranch, not Italian, and not Thousand Island.
Anchovies are optional, but lots of places don’t even offer them, except high-end restaurants.
I hate getting a Caesar salad with tomatoes and even worse ( ::shudder:: ) grated carrots. They have their place, but it sure as hell ain’t on a Caesar Salad.

One down, 49 to go.

I just remembered another detail that should have tipped me off: The specials board was actually advertising a “Ceaser salad.” Maybe it was their own trademarked version, hence the goofy spelling? :rolleyes:

I feel it only appropriate to also mention that I always have a bottle of Cardini’s Caesar dressing in the fridge – The Real Thing.

I guess I should consider myself lucky, because I’ve never, ever gotten a Caesar salad that contained anything other than exactly the ingredients listed, nothing more, nothing less (though never with anchovies, except those that are used in the making of the dressing). Even at the Souplantation (a big chain soup and salad bar place out here) they do the Caesar salad with the proper lettuce, dressing, etc. (they even use shredded parmesan, as opposed to the grated, canned stuff).

I would have sent the faux salad back and not paid for it. Other than that, I completely agree with you.

I have never had anchovies in a ceaser salad unless it is in the dressing. I seem to remember the dressing was made with anchovie paste. that being said the thing I see missing is garlic. All of the recipes I have seen called for a raw garlic clove to be rubbed on the bowl so that the salad is scented with garlic.

I’ve never had caesar salad with anchovies and it is my understanding that the anchovies come from the worcestershire sauce, which is an integral part of caesar dressing. If someone put the actual fish in my salad, I’d kill them.

Otherwise, what the OP has is what I expect a caesar salad to be as well. The abomination served was … well, abominable.

No-one ever puts a raw egg into a Cesar salad. It’s a coddled egg (simmered in its shell for less than the three minutes that a standard soft-boiled egg would be).

Anchovies? I prefer food, thankyouverymuch. 'Nuff said.

BTW, the subject of the origin and ingredients has been discussed a great deal. I asked Jeeves who invented the Caesar salad, and these were the first three hits.

Some restaurants do use raw egg, pasturized raw egg. It eliminates the risk of salmonella.

The anchovy thing can go either way. Some may simply opt for anchovy paste in the dressing. Some may top the salad off with an anchovy fillet. Everywhere I have ever worked lists the anchovy in the menu description and it is gladly left off if requested.

If you are, then I’m worse. :wink: I prefer it made at the table, sans a “creamy” dressing (a true Caesar’s salad dressing is not creamy), and never with chicken. However, there was nothing in what you described as being even close to what a Caesar’s salad is, so it’s hard to blame you.

The original recipie, as found on the back of Caesar’s Bar business card, can be found at Wikipedia’s entry (it’s currently down, but Google’s cached version has it). However, I actually prefer the on in Better Homes and Garden’s “Original Caesar’s Salad” (at least in my 1968 edition that my grandmother gave me :wink: … more recent editions, IIRC, have changed it quite some degree). The main difference between BH&G and CB version is a) the egg is coddled for 1.5 minutes instead of mixing hot water in with a beaten egg; and b) garlic-flavored olive oil is used instead of grapeseed oil.

Some friends and I did taste tests of the “King of Salads” throughout Sonoma County and Lake Tahoe areas. The best, we found, was at La Gare in Santa Rosa, where they do make it at your table; the worst was at a restraunt just outside of Tahoe City, where they grilled a head of Romain lettuce, which had sounded interesting; however, the gas flavor infected every leaf of lettuce making it inedible (unless you like the taste of propane).

Anchovies are the food of the gods, especially mixed with black olives (real olives, not the stuff you get in a can) and capers in a tapenade.

But anyway…I know Caesar salad to be the ingredients you listed, with anchovies. Although, for some reason, I seem to recall the anchovies as being a later addition, and not part of the classic Caesar.

Nope, a Caesar salad has no anchovies. It just tastes that way because Worcestershire sauce does have them.

I’m definitely in the camp that can’t really accept it as a Caesar salad if it doesn’t have the anchovies and use the closest thing to a raw egg as possible in the dressing without killing me.

Jammer

Salmonella is fairly rare in American eggs. According to this study about one in 30,000 eggs contains salmonella. And, out of that, 94% of those who do get sick from salmonella, get better without any medical intervention.

I wouldn’t advise people with weakened immune systems to eat raw eggs, but I think for most of us, the risk is negligible. And I’ll take that risk. Otherwise, I’d be missing the joy of homemade mayonnaise and egg nog.

You say that with such absolute finality. Hmmm. I guess every restaurant I worked in for the last 18 years had no idea what they were doing. Always had a big ol’ fat anchovy fillet on top of the salad unless requested otherwise.

This food reference actually kinda supports both your “no anchovy” argument and us on the “must have anchovy” side.