That was Jesse Pinkman.
Paint with a broad brush much? What are you saying “their religion says”?
I’m Christian, rather devout, and I oppose prayer in public schools, the teaching of creationism, and so on. It’s because if anyone is going to teach religion to kids of mine(I don’t actually have any) then the teacher is going to be me.
In junior high or high school I wouldn’t oppose elective classes on, say, world religions, or religious history in general., because what people believe MAKES history.
In 2010, I emigrated because I could not sponsor my same-sex partner for immigration to the USA due to DOMA (so institutionalized discrimination rather than anything personal). Had we been able to wait three more years, that would not have been necessary, but it was a big deal for us at the time.
I have a hard time seeing it as the same category as the other things mentioned in this thread, because it was just the status quo my entire life and isn’t violent like what happened to Bleiz Du. (Excellent user name, by the way: c’hwi a gomz brezhoneg?)
I had a story about sexism yesterday. A friend in her eighties was asked by the doorman of her building “if she had ever worked” (she is a retired MD).
Thanks Joey. Wrong person, same schtick.
As he ages, my husband is becoming more and more racist and sexist. Years ago, he was liberal and open-minded and we thought alike. However, now he’s becoming a bitter, fearful old white guy. I think it dates from when he started listening to Rush Limbaugh during his commute “just for entertainment purposes,” and now he’s starting to spout off like Limbaugh.
I dread it getting worse as he gets older and him starting a scene with neighbors.
So, to answer the OP, just about every evening nowadays.
When I was all of 45, I went to a job fair and was asked by a prospective employer (federal government department even!) when I wanted to retire. Retire? At 45? He said, oh, that isn’t an ageism question… yeah right. Mild compared to some on here, but I didn’t see an ageism story.
Many years ago an old lady on the bus started going off about black people were ruining the country or some such nonsense, with 2 black girls sitting nearby… I still feel bad I didn’t call her on it. This was in Ottawa btw, which I found odd since there isn’t much black/white tension here.
Racial: White teacher to my white wife, talking about our white son’s performance in middle school:
“What do you expect, he is competing with the top kids from Asia at our school.”
There is an assumption in our local schools that the top classes are for Asians only.
Religion: Comment to my son, “why are you studying science, you are Christian and don’t believe in Science.”
I’ve very often heard from Christians that they are essentially religiously required to act something like Leaffan’s neighbors, since everybody should/must be a Christian, and must never miss an opportunity to evangelize. Now, this might be a Protestant thing, since isn’t it true that Catholics think one will be judged on one’s actions, rather than thoughtcrime, but in any case, I’ve encountered a great many Christians saying that they cannot set aside their faith, and the actions incumbent upon them.
There are a few possibilities here. It could be only a Protestant thing, or it’s not technically in the Bible at all, or it actually is, but it’s just one of those things that a lot of Christians pretend not to notice (in common with the cherry-picking of all sorts of theists), or perhaps something else.
I’m rather curious now.
Sadly no, because breton is spoken a lot where I live; I know just enough to be able to fake it when ordering a drink or exchanging hi/how are you/it’s raining etc but I barely understand what I’m saying myself!
The one I think of as worst isn’t necessarily the worst one for me personally, but I label it that way because it negatively affected several people in my team as well as the company we worked for.
Our boss got a hard to refuse offer and, right after HR told us that we had to start looking for new positions as the project was winding down, accepted it (HR: “we didn’t mean you!”). His replacement’s job was advertised as “helping team members find their new positions, preferably within the company”.
He hated women, Hispanics (actually anybody not pale enough and/or whose first language was not English), Catholics (anybody not from his own denomination), people with Masters degrees and of course foreigners (not merely immigrants, no: foreigners; that’s most of the world, no matter where you’re from!). Five out of five ain’t bad!
The company’s evaluation procedures called for us to send a form to several people we’d worked for/with in the last year and have them send it to our evaluating manager, in this case Mr. Helpful.
The people who sent my evaluations bcc’d me. The forms I got gave me a 3 out of 5 as the lowest grade; the same for my foreign coworkers. We all got “collated evaluations” where the highest grade was 1: people who’d specifically been “imported” by the company after working for it in our home countries for years got labeled “unemployable”. Add some really bad procedures regarding repatriation and immigration papers on HR’s part, and a year after that evaluation we were all working Elsewhere.
When it was announced that he’d be the new Ops for one of the business lines, teammates who’d been getting feelers from that line started answering “sorry, no” to them because, yeah, for some reason a black woman with a Master’s doesn’t quite fancy being a direct report to a fellow like that.
Not a Protestant thing that “being a Christian should imbue your whole life”, but Catholics aren’t Creationists, so why would we want it taught in science class? We talk about the creation stories in religion/history of religion class and/or catechesis, but not as literal truth. As for evangelization, you’ll have to ask more knowledgeable people for the details of when and how it came to be, but the current emphasis is on doing so through works: you’re supposed to be available for questions and to act in a way that makes people ask them (I’ve had people ask why we’d helped someone who “was nobody to us”; in one instance, the Jewish coworker who’d also assisted was as surprised as I was that someone could find that strange), but not to run after people hitting them with hardcover copies of the Catechism.
Thanks for reminding me. I’m a guy, and need probably two inches taken off my ponytail. Thanks again for the reminder!
Nonsense.
I was baptized into a liberal Christian sect (Presbyterian). We were told to never convert anybody; and indeed, were told to leave those who held other faiths (e.g. Jewish, Muslim) alone.
What we were told was that we all (Christian, Jewish, Muslim; i.e. the Abrahamic faiths) belonged to God’s family. So did the Roman Catholics, the Mormons, the Ukranian Orthodox, the Greek Orthodox, the Lutherans, and so on. As long as Jesus figured somehow in their religion (as Messiah or prophet), we were related. And we should be glad of that.
Reading many of these debates, I am glad I was born into such a liberal sect. Really, looked at from my point of view, arguments about Jesus, religion, or Christianity are dumb.
Whether this was ageism, sexism, racism, some other -ism, or some combination of the aforementioned, I don’t know. But in my first position out of vet school, I was routinely referred to by my first name by management instead of by my title. Which would not have bothered me one bit if not for the fact that this courtesy was automatically extended to every other veterinarian in the organization who was not young, black, and female.
I caught a neighborhood kid shooting-out the window panes of my garage and went next door to talk to his mom about it. I wasn’t mean to the kid, just didn’t want that done. She denied he had done it, at first, just as her kid came around from back carrying a bb gun. I wasn’t hollering or threatening at all, and told her I had witnessed the thing done and to please ask him not to do it anymore.
She snarled and sneered a bit more, so I just started walking away when she shouted “You fuqin’ foreigner”. I’m an American-born second generation Italian-American, not that it makes any difference.
Turning back toward her, I said, “What ? Have you ever heard of Christopher Columbus ? Or, Amerigo Vespucci ? Do you know the pedestal supporting the Statue of Liberty was built by Italian stonemasons ?” She, I could tell, had not, so I just walked off shaking my head.
The next morning she awoke to find a horse’s head in her bed. I don’t know how it got there, honest. True story, mostly.
I suspect that what Peace is referring to is the evangelical take on the “Great Commission”. Some denominations take it way more seriously than others.
A couple of years ago I applied for a government position that I was more than adequately qualified for. I should of been selected for testing, and if all went well an interview. But I didn’t pay much concern to fine print regarding their government sanctioned hiring policy which allowed them to openly discriminate based on sex and ethnicity if they chose to. I believe it was cited as the equity hiring act. It was marginalizing to read the rejection letter as to the reason why in print; that basically said you have a white penis.
I don’t care how people fluff that shit up it’s discriminatory and sexist.
Oh yeah, I know; I’ve encountered those in forms ranging from a dude asking me out on a date which turned out to be an attempt at converting me to grafitti asking “do yu red the BIBLE?”. But I was describing the current Catholic view.
Joer Ibáñez, you should’a countered with “no, I have a Hispanic penis! Look, it chinga in Spanish!”
My personal experiences haven’t been that bad, to me.
I am a white guy in a neighborhood that is at least 90% black. I’m employed in a restaurant as a shift manager there, and almost all the staff and the rest of the managers are black. The kind of racism I deal with is downright tame considering the kind of bullshit my coworkers have to put up with.
What I deal with are the folks that refuse to say anything to me at all, presumably because of my skin color, because they don’t do that to folks with darker skin. I’m tipped less than my coworkers. I have been accused of being racist because the bathroom isn’t open to the public thanks to the large amount of vandalism and drug trafficking that has occurred in there. It’s bad enough that the maintenance budget isn’t large enough to repair and repaint in there every week, we don’t need little kids finding and then ingesting dangerous drugs. So there’s a reason the bathroom is closed to the public now, and it wasn’t my decision. That was the RGM’s decision. He’s a black guy. I’m a white guy.
Now, I was accused of being a racist because the bathroom was off-limits to the public. Someone wants to use the bathroom, I explain it’s not open to the public, and I made the mistake of being white that day, so obviously it’s a racial thing. I was informed this sort of thing doesn’t happen in all-white neighborhoods. I was a little dismayed that the very first thought that crosses someone’s mind was that it was racially motivated.
Really tame, uninteresting crap like that. It’s the kind of stuff you can get laughed at for complaining about.
Honestly what’s more disturbing is how people treat my coworkers. And it’s not a racial thing, because they’re mistreated by their own family members for being homosexual.
They’re either disowned by their family or their family members try to persuade them to change who they are, as if being mistreated their whole lives wasn’t reason enough to change voluntarily if that were an option. (People really like to choose a life of being treated like crap. That’s the kind of choice everyone would make in their shoes. Still can’t figure out how people believe it’s a choice, or if it were, why it would matter.)
And of course this being the type of community that has a church every 100 feet or so, you gotta imagine that doesn’t make things easier on them.
And of course, all of my black coworkers can cite horror stories worse than anything I could describe regarding how they’ve been treated by real racists in their real everyday life. I imagine if I were treated that way every day, my first thought when seeing someone of a different color skin would be “oh great, what’s this asshole going to do to me?”
When I lived in New Hampshire, there wasn’t a whole lot of diversity. But there wasn’t a whole lot of noticeable prejudice whenever there was someone around who was not “like” the others, either. I guess when you’re not exposed to a large number of people “unlike” yourself every day, it’s harder to get worked up over it.
I thought racism was something that happened a long time ago, and only a few random bigots were left over, a pathetic remnant from a more idiotic time.
Then I moved down south, and witness the idiocy come to life. It’s here and it doesn’t seem to be dying down very rapidly either.
You still need the courts to strike down the worst of it. Can’t even win an election without appeasing the bigot vote down here.
Different geographical regions yield very different experiences indeed. Nothing that happened in my country ever really made me ashamed, but then, I hadn’t really experienced the country, just my home state.
Some states are truly the meth labs of democracy.
A new accountant visited us at our house. He looked at me resentfully when we sat down but I didn’t twig as to why that should be so. Then I asked him a technical question. He smiled at me condescendingly and asked for a cup of coffee.
So I made the coffee and spat in it and smiled condescendingly while he and my idiot husband who didn’t notice the blatant insult drank it.