(little background. I frequent(less often at this point) a Christian chat room. I am a Christian. A VERY liberal one.)
Listen, you little prick. How do you think to tell me
a)how I should think
b)how I should vote
c)that I have no faith because I will not, under any circumstances vote for Bush.
You are barely old enough to form your own opinion. Why don’t you quit parroting what mommy and daddy say, and read a paper and learn to think for yourself.
I feel for you when you get out into the real world, kid. You think that everyone has to think the same way as you? Well here’s a big purple fat ass clue for you. They don’t. They won’t. And you’re going to be wrong more often than right. At 14 you don’t freakin’ know everything in life, no matter how much you think you do.
You know what else? There are bigger issues than abortion. YES, I am pro-choice. VERY pro choice. Does that make me less of a person, less of a Christian? No. It means I have looked at the issue and made a decision based on my life experiences, of which you have next to none. So don’t even begin to talk to me about abortion. Because I can argue up one side and down the other, until you can’t even see straight from trying to keep up.
On top of that, you aren’t even old enough to vote. So how do you propose to tell me what to do with my vote. So, just like I told you a few minutes ago, you can bite my ass.
I had a 14-year old start chatting with me because he saw my info at The Pizza Parlor. I liked the chats, even though I am an old man, and made no atempts to stop the youngster from chatting with me.
When the chat came to religion, here is what happened:
I was stuck. I do NOT want to “witness” to a kid. If the kid wants to become a UU or look up what it’s about, rock on. But I refuse to have some parents or siblings acting like I turned their little kid into a heathen. But at the same time, being told that my spirituality, which took me years to come around to, “disgusted” someone was disheartening.
I got out of it as best I could. And the kid has yet to say hi to me again.
*TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
Six months, four weeks, one day, 13 minutes and 26 seconds.
8480 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,060.05.
Extra time with Drain Bead: 4 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 40 minutes.
Not picking on anyone specifically, but I feel as if adults, in general, are not tolerant of people younger than them, especially teenagers. IN GENERAL. Yes, some teenagers are stupid, mindless, popularity-driven sheep. BUT, some of us are smart, educated, and DO read the newspaper (not just the comics, either. . .). I don’t feel as if WE should be downgraded by some adults, just because some of our peers aren’t intelligent. Why, some adults act just as stupidly as some teenagers, so I guess if some 30 year old tries to offer me advice about say. . .how the internet is chock-full of child molesters, pornographers, and general badness, I should just tell them to go felch a goat, because SOME (maybe MOST, I don’t know. . .) thirty year olds haven’t even been ON the internet. Right???
Two things for the people who are acting all PC above:
First of all, I most certainly WILL blame it on their ages. After all, I blame stupid things I did in the past on my age…
Second of all, if you don’t understand that the source is to be considered when injesting criticism, then you must not take any criticism at all very well.
I do not appreciate having a 14 year old telling me something I thought about longer than he has been alive is “wrong.” The OP does not appreciate being given political advice from someone who never voted.
Some kids are great. I listen to Sanibelman all the time! But he knows where him being young puts him in a place where listening is better than talking when it comes to some subjects. He does not tell me how to have good sex, for example…
SO, yes, taking someone’s age is not something that should be done all the time. But there are times where you really need to pull a W.C. Fields and say, “Get away from me, boy… You bother me…”
*TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
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8481 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,060.19.
Extra time with Drain Bead: 4 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 45 minutes.
When I was 14 I would have been happy to tell you what you should think. Thirty-two years later I’ll tell you the same thing. Maybe I was advanced for a kid. Maybe I never advanced at all.
Don’t assume a kid is parroting just because he’s young. He might have given the topic plenty of thought, too.
Don’t start pulling that bullshit where somebody disagrees with you because he’s trying to be PC. That’s the same bullying tactic Rush Limbaughs of the world pull and I’m not standing for it here.
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Which is the same attitude we got from you “old farts” when we worked to end our involvement in Vietnam. Fuck the old farts then and fuck you now. I am entitled to my opinion and I am entitled to state it.
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The “Some of my best friends” argument. It’s bogus when used to keep down any other oppressed minority and it’s bogus now.
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Although I have to agree, and repeat it to you. “Get away from me, boy… You bother me…”
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Satan, I can see how this would be true in some cases, but I just CANNOT agree that a person’s argument should have it’s validity weighed by their age.
If you were discussing, oh say… house taxes, or an event that happened before they were born, then maybe I’d concede the point.
But religion is something you don’t need life experience to understand, value and produce your own views on.
As to the PC comment, I’m agreeing with dropzone, and starting a new thread.
I can’t help but think you’re being judgemental. Isn’t that what you’re upset about in the first place?
PC = Dismissing a valid complaint with, “But they’re young! How can you blame them for being youg!” In the usual whiny voice I have come to expect.
You gonna take driving lessons from someone who has never drove before? You gonna take swimming lessons from someone who can’t even dog paddle? Gonna take relationship advice from someone who ain’t never been kissed?
Well, that is what we are complaining about here. People who feel qualified to teach these things in spite of their own inexperience.
Instead of knee-jerking and whining about, “don’t blame them because they are young,” like a good little PC soldier, how about using some fucking common sense.
Person with no experience tells people with experience that they are WRONG. This is silly. Not sillier than you whining about it, but there ya go.
*TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
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8484 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,060.58.
Extra time with Drain Bead: 4 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 0 minutes.
Oh. Guess I should resign my candidacy, then. A 19 year old is much to young to have an opinion.
Never mind that I’ve probably read more political philosophy and listened to more hours of news and debates than most people will in their lives. Never mind that I grew up around intellectual stimulation and that I actively seek milieux of debate and discourse.
Everything about my competency as a thinking person is determined by the length of time I’ve lived.
Brilliant.
Oh, I’ll be told, as I usually am, you’re taking it too far. That’s not what I was talking about at all. Yes it is. Young people can disagree with you. Moreover, their opinion is not to be dismissed on the basis of their age.
It does indeed suck that the person was being rude to you. That they are an idiot is grounds to dismiss their argument. That they are young is not. That’s just prejudice.
14 years is NOT no experience. I know a lot of people who at 14 had experienced a hell of a lot. This person still has the right to have her own views, no matter how young she is. That’s not PC bullshit.
(Lsura, this is not supposed to detract from my original point, which was that, yeah, she was being bitchy and judgemental)
Satan, you are throwing around PC in an general and insulting manner. Shall we discuss this in the proper thread?
I, however, dismiss anything you have to say because you are twenty years younger than me and, therefore, lack my level of experience in just about everything. How do you like it when it’s used on you?
A horse’s ass is a horse’s ass at any age. It’s just more annoying and less excusable when they are still horse’s asses after building up that lifetime of experience.
matt: Why are you taking this personally? I have seen the way you react when some bigot starts spouting how they know how you feel being gay - making that “choice.” You know, if you listened to these peoplw with no experience, you’d have gone back into the close and found yourself a nice woman by noww, seeing your “choice” is sinful, against nature and, of course, “wrong.” Darn shame you never listened to these people who had no experience being gay, huh…
I will go slowly, since some people here are obviously retard… uh, I mean, “mentally challenged.” :rolleyes:
I will not listen to some twirp who has given me any evidence they are worth the effort. Sure, I will listen for that evidence. As I said, I will listen to everything Sanibelman says. But when some twirp comes up with some shit that he knows nothign about and DEMANDS that they are right and I am wrong… Well, again, still waiting to see whom is taking driving lessons from the pre-teens on this board…
*TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
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8485 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,060.65.
Extra time with Drain Bead: 4 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 5 minutes.
Anybody here who says they would speak to a 14 year old in the same manner as a 27 year old is not communicating effectively.
The arguement here, I think, is that some people think that Lar disrespected, on the basis of age, what the 14 year old had to say.
It was a disagreeable thing to say, no matter what the age of the person speaking. Why did Lar feel the need to pull back? If you felt that strongly, why didn’t you say so? You obviously had some sort of rapport going, what was wrong with telling the child why this was such a disagreeable thing to say?
And to everyone jumping on Satan, this was a child.
I’m NOT saying she was right, or that Lsura should have listened to her. I’m saying that you can’t just dismiss her viewpoint 'cause she’s young. Do it cause she’s ignorant, or closed-minded, but not on account of her age.
