Calm the fuck down, for fuck’s sake. It’s a bill, it isn’t law yet, nowhere is there any sign this silly measure has the slightest chance of becoming law, etc.
I don’t wonder at all why you think liberals and Democrats are a threat to your freedom. I do sometime wonder how it is that fairly simple concepts like ‘confirmation bias’ seem to completely escape you.
sorry, just something i read somewhere. was hoping i didnt have to google it
So long as bacon is safe…
You people do know this is Jimmy Carter’s fault, right? It’s a little known fact that Assemblyman Ortiz’s political hero is Carter, another liberal dem. Ortiz was sitting in his office one day, pondering the former president’s legacy, and how he could bring it to NY. “What was that nuclear weapons thing with Breznev”, thought Ortiz, “I got it… the S.A.L.T. ban! That’s what I’ll do!”
It all ties back to Carter. Wheels within wheels, man. Wheels within wheels.
The EU recently banned iodine as a means to purify water, maybe that’s the confusion.
Well, if you don’t, I’m going to assume that what you were (somewhat confusedly) thinking of was this:
In other words, one Scandinavian country (Denmark) used to ban iodization of salt, but more recently reinstituted it, first as an optional practice and then as a mandatory one.
In short, it appears that the Danish government has been adapting its iodization regulations in light of current information about public health, and has been doing systematic epidemiological studies of the population to determine what the best regulatory policy for salt iodization would be.
Geez, those commie Scandinavians with their “socialized medison” have some nerve, don’t they? The very idea of trying to establish public health policy based on scientific results! :mad:
Salt-extracted bacon: the new health food for the 21st century.
The vast majority of people in Europe are crazy General Rippers about their “precious bodily fluids” and oppose water flouridation, genetically modified food, and all sorts of other things that are obviously beneficial to anyone who isn’t a conspiracy theorist. It doesn’t have much to do with the economic system, as the anti-scientific paranoia is common to both the left and right wings there.
“Sir, we encourage you to try the dish the chef has prepared for you first. If you feel that additional salt is necessary, we’ll have one of NYC’s finest escort it to your table…under a watchful eye.”
I think more important than who backed it is who voted for it, a figure that included a great many Democrats. A Google search fails to bring up a breakdown, but I recall much consternation over it being discussed here shortly after the election.
Well, apart from the fact that I’m not all that, uh, uncalm, the chances of it becoming law don’t really matter. It’s just that the idea behind it is so typical of liberal thinking and its relentless efforts to parent us.
It’s one thing to do studies and try to determine what is the healthiest thing to do; it’s another entirely to pass laws forcing people to comply. Isn’t that one of the big bugaboos of people who are opposed to UHC that liberals claim will never happen? This is exactly what many of us who oppose single payer insurance anticipate – that the time will come that the government begins intruding on our lifestyle choices for “the public good”, and it will proclaim that it’s justified because healthcare is a “public” burden.
As for me, I’m just glad that I got to spend my time here on Earth here while this country and its populace was still free. In another fifty to a hundred years living in this country will be like having to live with your parents, only you’ll never be able to grow up and get out and live life on your own.
That was pretty damn clever, if I do say so myself. 
Don’t blame all Dems. Given the power and opportunity, I’d kick his ass out of “my” prty.
I refer you to the Dennis Leary speech, from Demolition Man.
First ABM, now SALT. What’s next, the Outer Space Treaty?
Yes. The first thing is called “science”, and the second thing is called “public policy”.
I quite agree that we shouldn’t make every health issue a matter of public policy legislation, but bitching about mandatory salt iodization of all things seems like about the last word in ridiculous anti-government hysteria. Do you dream of the good old days before the evil totalitarian nanny government put fluoride in the water, too?
Here’s one from January of this year.
Pretty much every time a discussion like this pops up anywhere on the net I’ve ever seen someone says they should ban salt, butter, fast food, red meat, or whatever. Sometimes seriously, other times jokingly, other times they just worry it might happen. For our own good, you see.
Because everyone has the same taste in food? I suppose that butter should also be banned from the table, because of course a cook knows better than the customer how much butter should be on something.
I don’t care if a cook is the best who ever lived; he can’t make food that appeals equally to everyone. Some people are going to want to customize it a little bit; by, say, sprinkling some salt on it.
If you ever chance upon a list of those who supported Prop 8, I’d really like to have it … so I know who to vote against, for all eternity (or until they go away).
As for the governmental parenting, I assure you I find it just as offensive as you do. I had ONE set of parents, they did the job well enough, and funny thing - they didn’t just teach me “the rules and limitations”, they also taught me that it’s OK to enjoy life and indulge occasionally. They also had this weird idea about ummm free country, and other inconvenient things. I don’t need some bureaucrat taking their place as my parents. It offends me. It pisses me off.
Even if it doesn’t pass, the very idea of it pisses me off.
In fact, my freedom to put whatever amount of salt I desire upon the food I am served in a restaurant is not infringed one iota by this proposed bill.
While - oddly enough, since I am a liberal Democrat - I don’t agree with this bill, it is no secret that the vast majority of the salt consumed by Americans is hidden in ready to eat foods, whether from the grocery or restaurants. Salt is a hot button for the human body, “Mmm, mmm, Good!”, and is frequently added to excess and in unhealthy amounts in order to disguise cheap ingredients and sloppy preparation by the purveyors of ready made food in this country.
This particular solution is not one I would support, but as usual you are missing the shades of grey in this issue.
Ahem, I did no “bitching” about mandatory salt iodization. Or flouridization. But those are a horse of a completely different color than the government telling you it’s now illegal to eat salt, or to forego flouride treatment of your teeth. Those are the kinds of things worth bitching about, and so, in the case of the former, I am.
But actually I’m pretty happy about it. It’s just that many more votes for Pubbies come November. People in this country are becoming pretty damn rebellious when it comes to leftie politics.
Hell, yeah! 
I’ll take a look around and see if I can find some figures on Prop. 8, but remember I was speaking of the citizens who voted for it, not politicians you could vote against.
I would submit that it’s people like you who are always seeing shades of grey in these issues who are responsible when the time eventually comes that one of our freedoms has been commandeered by government. Politicians and lawmakers know that to make large changes it’s often necessary to implement small changes first that take you part way to where they want you to be, then come along later after everyone has used to it and change it the rest of the way. First they’ll say it’s illegal for restaurants to put salt in their food, then to put salt on the table, and then finally to sell salt to the public. And it was all able to happen because because people saw shades of grey each step along the way.
If we are going to keep government out of our lives, we need to not cede these little abrogations of our right to live as we see fit. Like I said above, if salt can be scientifically shown to be unhealthy, government’s role should be to inform us of that and not to prohibit it or make it difficult for us to obtain it if we see fit.
Well, that’s what it sounded like when you replied to my remarks about the Danish government’s salt iodization regulation:
If you were actually trying to say that you have no quarrel with salt iodization laws, then never mind.
Which the government is not doing, despite your panicked overreaction here.
Yeah Frank, shame on you for taking a rational and evidence-based principled approach to public policy issues. If you would only abandon your effete liberal rationality and be a raving loon like Starving Artist, then we could stand together to resist the evil totalitarian nanny government’s socialistic salt criminalization campaign (a raving-loon cause celebre if ever there was one). Why do you hate America, Frank? :mad: