Interesting. New for me and I can’t get anything to play once minimized.
Oops. Probably everything I’ve said in this thread can be disregarded. What wasn’t working for me is apparently called Picture-in-picture which is different than playing in the background. And somehow it got disabled in my settings, which I have now re-enabled.
YouTube pays 55% of ad revenue to creators, (45% to themselves) - the ad revenue amount is directly related to the price the advertisers pay (that is, if your content manages to attract a high-paying advertiser, you get a share of that.
In the case of premium, the subscription revenue all goes into a pool (YouTube tales a cut, to compensate them for not making money showing ads. I don’t know what the split is. But it seems reasonable to assume it’s 55/45 like with ads).
Creators get paid a share of the premium pool. Based on the number of premium views their content got. It’s a flatter scheme, just because there isn’t the scaling effect that you get when a popular video gets ads that are better-paying per impression than a less popular video.
Further googling seems to confirm that the Premium pool is indeed split 45/55 between YouTube and video creators, the same as the ad revenue split.
I would say that Premium might be a less attractive proposition for both YouTube and video creators, because it’s a flat rate subscription regardless of the amount of content watched, for example (hypothetical extremes):
From YouTube’s perspective: If everyone watching YouTube subscribes to Premium, the revenue is just a finite sum of money; more views across the entire platform don’t create a larger revenue pool - only the addition of new premium subscribers does that. So let’s say there is some global event that causes people to stay home and watch more YouTube; demand (and the resources needed to fulfil it) increase, but revenue stays the same. Counterpoint: maybe that doesn’t matter if it can be assumed that user headcount will remain proportional to the volume of views, and of course if there’s some global event that causes everyone to turn off the TV and go outside, YouTube continues making money for doing nothing.
From the video creator point of view: if everyone is subscribed to Premium, revenue scaling by views is strictly linear - you make two videos in a month; one gets 10x the views of the other; one makes 10x the revenue of the other. Seems fair enough, but in an ad-supported revenue model where there is a marketplace for ads, and advertisers bid for placement, a video that gets 10x the views might easily earn more than 10x the ad revenue. In this case, Premium represents a little bit of a disincentive to care so much about making popular content. Counterpoint: that’s not necessarily a bad thing, in fact it’s sort of how I operate my channel - I just make the content I want to (which is not typical); maybe in this case, passion for the content itself could prevail over simple grabbing for views.
Stage 3 is you can’t close it at all.
You must disable your adblocker and reload the page.
I’ve tried a few adblockers now, and none seem to work for me right now.
However, I don’t want to say I’ve found a workaround yet, but in the last day I’ve had good results with starting youtube with the adblocker off, watching one advert, then turning the adblocker on. I then haven’t seen any adverts, or youtube messages, after hours of autoplay.
I hadn’t encountered any problems but once I heard about this I started prophylactically opening all videos in porn mode private windows and not logging into them. That means I don’t have a list of past views, which likely affects what it’s feeding me on the main page. But maybe this will pass over eventually.
It’s been used for a few things but was also the operating system used on the HP Touchpad: an ill-fated attempt by HP to make a non-Android/iOS tablet that flopped within a month and led to the a bunch of Touchpads being sold at fire sale pricing. Many got hacked into Android tablets but I was coincidentally talking to someone the other day who said he was still running his on the native WebOS.
When Google killed Google Music and tried to shuffle everyone to YouTube music, this was the immediate deal-breaker for me. I had an hour long commute and no desire to spend it with my phone screen blazing so I went looking for alternatives, moved to Spotify and now, today, have no desire to buy a YT Premium subscription because it’s redundant to the established Spotify sub I only started because YouTube was stupid about my phone screen.
I think LG owns WebOS now and it’s in their smart TVs
Mine was acting fine for the last week or so. This morning it was blocked again. I had to tell uBlock to reset to default and then update filters and that worked. (I tried updating the “quick” list in uBlock but that did not work.)
Since I have no special rules for uBlock doing that is trivial for me. Takes about 20 seconds to do it all (if that).
I’ve started logging into YT within an incognito window. I can get several days worth of ad-free videos out of it before it starts nagging me. Close incognito window, open a new one, logon again and you now have another several days of ad-free viewing. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I have now installed Ublock, disabled Adblock Plus, and experimented with enabling and disabling the ad blocking that comes in Opera. Nothing has prevented the popups about ad blocking completely (still at the stage of the 5-second countdown to be able to close the popup) but I am getting fewer of them. I guess I’ll look into that Ublock tweaking that I have seen mentioned here, that is supposed to help.
Huh. That is strange. As you determined, that is called Background Play and has been a Premium-only feature for as long as there has been a Premium (even back when it was called YouTube Red). Heck, there was a time before PiP (picture-in-picture) was an available option, so the video would just play audio only.
And the alterations that fix background play also tend to block ads, along with a lot of other added features.
Just got the warning for the first time in a while on my Chromebook. I updated uBlock.
I find the YouTube warnings to be the most obnoxious ad block warnings that I’ve come across.
I don’t even know anymore. As far as I can tell Background Play and PiP are two different things. All I really do know is I got the PiP functionality back through a setting on my phone, not a setting on Youtube.
Yep, today it’s back to being blocked!
That just worked for me now too. Thanks!!
I will say I think this might actually hurt sites like the SDMB.
I won’t be bothered to re-establish a whitelist for sites I like.
I’ve had an “update chrome” prompt for several days and after updating UBlock several times today and it not working I decided “what the hell”. Updated chrome and ublock and all is working again.
OK, sorry, but it’s a big thread. How do I tell uBlock to update filters? It isn’t in the same place as reset to default, or at least I can’t find it. I’m using Opera, if that matters.
Hopefully this helps. I know the order is not super clear but there is little to it and I think it is easy to sort out:
(multiple images there…click on the image above)