Yul really help me out ...

The voiceover of his famous anti-smoking ad says Brinner.

I’m one of those people whose accent doesn’t really differentiate between Brinner and Brenner.

I’d say that’s definitive.

Wait a minute. Do you distinguish between ‘pin’ and ‘pen’? I do, but I’ve met people who don’t (and it really threw me for a loop, considering that we were discussing electronics (“Use you pen to write down the pin numbers of U3”)

Smith.