Michael Jackson never got it. On a different note, neither Uri Geller.

[GIGObuster]

Pitting 2 for the price of one!

http://www.msnbc.com/news/995303.asp

You really don’t get it Michael. However, I will save my bile once more info is available, because I see that also that Uri Geller has popped up:

http://www.news.scotsman.com/interna...?id=1277082003

Uri Geller, a psychic and "paranormalist" who is a long-time friend of Jackson’s, told Fox News that, if the allegations are of a sexual nature, he does not think they are true: "I’m a father and I would never associate myself with anyone who’d do anything with a child."

Geller described Jackson as "gullible, innocent, maybe a little confused ... but I would never believe he would sexually abuse a child".

And you call yourself a psychic? Something so devastating, as a new allegation coming up, never registered in your psychic sensors? Some powers you have there.

I can’t believe this guy is still being taken seriously by many.

[Guinastasia]

I thought Gellar was a telekinetic, not a psychic?

[Diogenes the Cynic]

He's neither. He's a fraud.

[5 time champ]

Gellar is neither a psychic nor telekinetic. He is just a fraud.

[5 time champ]

But maybe DtC have some paranormal powers, look at that simulpost.

[carrot]

Name change: Diogenes the Psychic. Or possibly Diogenes the Psychic Cynic. Or Diogenes the Cynical Psychic.

Nah, that last one sounds too much like a children's Christmas special.

[5 time champ]

er- DtC and I have some paranormal powers.

[vanilla]

Uri can stick a spoon in it!

[GIGObuster]

Hi Kat.

Uri Geller likes the “psychic” title, and the attributes that go with it:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/01/tod.07.html

I believe DtC has more powers of prediction than Geller.

vainilla, considering the OP, do you think Michael....

Nah, too easy!

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Jinx! Buy me a coke!

[Genghis Bob]

Originally posted by vanilla
Uri can stick a spoon in it!

Not possible. There is no spoon.

[BubbaDog]

Mental note: never eat soup with rimshotdansk

[Futile Gesture]

Sounds like Uri is preparing to distance himself from Jackson. After all that time being his No. 1 best buddy too.

Maybe he's taken a lesson from Blaine. Apparently one of the first things Blaine did after getting out of his perspex box is tell his people to keep Uri out of his face. I think he must have been fed-up waking every morning, cold and starving, but with the sight of his 'good friend' Uri below him sucking up as much publicity as possible. He was out there, uninvited and in front any camera or microphone that would have him, for 30 of the 44 days.

[teela brown]

For the love of God, what parent(s) nowadays would let their child spend unsupervised time with Michael Jackson?

[Agrippina]

Originally posted by Futile Gesture
Sounds like Uri is preparing to distance himself from Jackson. After all that time being his No. 1 best buddy too.

I believe Elizabeth Taylor got wise and did that a few months ago, or perhaps it was a year ago. Anyway, I remember reading about how she and Jackson aren't friends anymore.

[World Eater]

So what's jacko going to do this time?

It's not like he has another $20,000,000.

[Guinastasia]

Apparently, there is now a warrant out for Jackson's arrest.

I wonder if he'll manage to weasel out of it this time.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

He can't buy his way out of it this time. California specifically changed the law so that the victim can now be compelled to testify against the defendant. The last time Jacko was in trouble the victim refused to cooperate once he received his pay-off. That can't happen again.

[rjung]

Assuming the charges are true (and I refuse to draw and conclusions until more evidence is brought forward), it makes me wonder about the father in the earlier case, who settled for $20 million. I mean, if my kid really was molested, I wouldn't settle for any amount of money...

[wring]

here's a concept for the lawyers:

(Assuming molestation charges are true) what would be the case against the parents in the first case being sued by the parents in the second case on the supposition that had the case not been settled, and it had been known that MJ was a molester, the second child wouldn't have been in that position (either 'cause MJ was in prison or had been identified as a molester officially)?

yea, I know.

But, I also wonder at any parent allowing child to stay w/MJ.

[hajario]

Now the media whores will be camping out in my town. I am not at all happy about this. The big press conference was held at the Earl Warren Showgrounds which is just a couple of miles from my house. I hope they change the venue for the trial and it is far, far away. If it's not, good fucking luck with a Santa Barbara jury, Mikey, this area is crawling with celebrities and we don't give a fuck one way or the other. Star power doesn't count for shit in these parts.

Haj

[Typo Negative]

I'm sorry, but any parent who would leave his or her kid alone with Jackson is looking for a payday. And should be hit hard about the face and neck.







I wonder if the victim is his OWN kid?

[Eve]

Originally posted by Rabid Child
I believe Elizabeth Taylor got wise and did that a few months ago, or perhaps it was a year ago.

That was about ten years ago. I remember Liz telling Baba Wawa, "Michael Jackson is the least weird person I know," and I thought, "What the hell kind of recommendation is that? You're Elizabeth Taylor!" I mean, her other friends are Liza Minnelli, Van Johnson, Mickey Rooney and Shirley MacLaine!

[musicguy]

Until more facts are clear, I'm not going to assume that he is guilty. There is always the possibility that someone sees this as a way to win the lottery.

There is also the possibility that he is guilty as hell. We will just have to wait until he gets his day in court, I suppose.

[Guinastasia]

Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic
He can't buy his way out of it this time. California specifically changed the law so that the victim can now be compelled to testify against the defendant. The last time Jacko was in trouble the victim refused to cooperate once he received his pay-off. That can't happen again.

Last time-wasn't the victim receiving death threats and a lot of harassment?

I was lead to believe that was why charges were dropped.

[Lute Skywatcher]

Originally posted by Eve

That was about ten years ago. I remember Liz telling Baba Wawa, "Michael Jackson is the least weird person I know," and I thought, "What the hell kind of recommendation is that? You're Elizabeth Taylor!" I mean, her other friends are Liza Minnelli, Van Johnson, Mickey Rooney and Shirley MacLaine!

Rabid Child had it right. Liz reportedly disassociated herself from The Gloved One after the baby-dangling incident of 19 November 2002.

[World Eater]

I wonder if Kobe is happy about this.

[hajario]

Originally posted by Guinastasia
Last time-wasn't the victim receiving death threats and a lot of harassment?

I was lead to believe that was why charges were dropped.

No. It was because the victim refused to cooperate. No testimony = No case for the prosecution. Part of the settlement agreement was that neither side could discuss it. The law was changed because of the case.

Haj

[World Eater]

Originally posted by Guinastasia
Last time-wasn't the victim receiving death threats and a lot of harassment?

I was lead to believe that was why charges were dropped.

What would that have to do with anything?

[Guinastasia]

That he was so harassed for going through with it, that they just said fuck it, we'll settle.

[Rick]

Originally posted by rjung
Assuming the charges are true (and I refuse to draw and conclusions until more evidence is brought forward), it makes me wonder about the father in the earlier case, who settled for $20 million. I mean, if my kid really was molested, I wouldn't settle for any amount of money...

I have a friend who is a parole officer. Her comment about this settlement was

So just how much money would it take for you to prostitute your child?

World Eater If there is no physical evidence, then without eyewitness testomony there is NO case.
You can't convict on "We think Jacko is wacko"

[Rick]

Oh and I nominate this for the funniest comment in an OP link.

First, Court TV reported that a portable toilet was brought to the scene. When the police bring their own toilet when serving a search warrant, it means one of two things: a) they’re going to be there for a while, or b) Michael Jackson’s bathroom is too disgusting to use. My guess is the former, not the latter, because people who have had 300 plastic surgeries tend to pay attention to detail. So that means the cops probably took the square footage of Neverland, divided it by the size of the average adolescent pubic hair, and then realized this was going to be a takeout food and porta-potty kind of day.

[MC Master of Ceremonies]

Uri Geller lives quite near to me, he a foo.

[World Eater]

Originally posted by Rick
World Eater If there is no physical evidence, then without eyewitness testomony there is NO case.
You can't convict on "We think Jacko is wacko"

Sure.

My understanding is that you can't "settle" a criminal case in the sense of just dropping the charges. Jacko paid the kid a huge sum of money, and in return they refused to testify and help the prosecution, effectively killing the case.

[Tripler]

Hey, I'm telepathetic. Does that help?

I just want to know how Jacko ends up with different kids, per situations like this? I mean, they guy/gal/it's had a string of allegations relating to lewd conduct. Who in their right mind would send their kid over to "Jacko's House"? Is there something I'm missing?

Tripler
Maybe I've got a little too much common sense. . .

[Guinastasia]

Originally posted by Rick
Oh and I nominate this for the funniest comment in an OP link.

I have to ask-why would they bring their own toilets? Are they afraid of tampering with evidence from his?

[Jojo]

I have to ask-why would they bring their own toilets? Are they afraid of tampering with evidence from his?

Because to search a place the size of Neverland you would need a whole heap of cops and other assorted experts and the investigation would lack a little..em..decorum if you had a constant stream of cops filing in and out of the accused's bathroom all day to take a dump.

The court document containing the allegations made by the first kid are on the Smoking Gun website:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html

[Boo Boo Foo]

I tell you another guy who washed his hands of Michael Jackson - and he was far more important than so-called "friends" - he was the guy who MADE Michael Jackson the star that he was (as in past tense).

Namely, one Mr Quincy Jones. I recall reading an interview in an edition of Vanity Fair with Quincy Jones about 3 years ago, and he was none too impressed with what had become of Michael Jackson. This was before Jacko's last album came out, the huge flop - remember that? And Quincy made it very clear that no amount of money could persuade him to work with Jackson ever again. He quite openly stated that he couldn't stand the man's manipulative narcissistic ways, and most importantly, had nothing but contempt for Jackson's wholly inappropriate fascination with the company of children.

I believe Quincy Jones referred to Jackson as "profoundly mentally unhealthy" and it was clear that Mr Jones didn't like Jacko one little bit. And the other thing I remember about the interview was that Quincy slammed Jackson for never once ever, like NEVER, has Jackson ever given credit to any of the musicians who have worked on any of Jackson's albums. I got the impression that Quincy Jones is a musician's musician and Jackson looks upon the musos who worked on his albums all these years as merely expendable hired hands.

[glee]

Originally posted by wring
here's a concept for the lawyers:

(Assuming molestation charges are true) what would be the case against the parents in the first case being sued by the parents in the second case on the supposition that had the case not been settled, and it had been known that MJ was a molester, the second child wouldn't have been in that position (either 'cause MJ was in prison or had been identified as a molester officially)?

And if the above is true, we also know the parents in the first case have plenty of money...

[Blonde]

Originally posted by World Eater
Sure.

My understanding is that you can't "settle" a criminal case in the sense of just dropping the charges. Jacko paid the kid a huge sum of money, and in return they refused to testify and help the prosecution, effectively killing the case.

According to Foxnews.com:

This is the second child molestation accusation brought against the pop singer in the past decade. The earlier charge, in 1993, was dropped when the 13-year-old boy refused to testify; a $20 million settlement was reached the following year instead.

Since then — and because of that case specifically — the law in California has changed regarding young victims of sexual abuse. Now they can be forced to testify. In this case, the victim is cooperating with authorities, according to Sneddon.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103517,00.html

Looks as if Michael has made his own bed, as it were.

[Guinastasia]

Isn't Sneddon the one he wrote a song about on HIStory?

[Blonde]

Yes, that's right, Guinastasia.



http://www.lyricsdomain.com/13/michael_jackson/d_s.html

[World Eater]

Who's Sneddon?

[GIGObuster]

Now, lets not be linkophobic or FOXphobic World Eater

Tom Sneddon is the Santa Barbara County District Attorney, as per the Fox news article.

[World Eater]

Originally posted by GIGObuster
Now, lets not be linkophobic or FOXphobic World Eater

Tom Sneddon is the Santa Barbara County District Attorney, as per the Fox news article.

Ok, I understand how linkophobic is bad, but the other one?

[PlasticVirgil]

Is anyone else feeling a bit relieved that this is all going on?

( I mean, NOT relieved about what Jacko is allegedly doing to kids. Don't get me wrong. Just relieved that finally, SOMETHING has come along to crack into the great, mysterious shroud that is Jackson's existance)

I feel like I've looked at Jackson as a walking timebomb for the past 6 years or so. You had the sense *something* was going to happen - He would go completely mad, declare bankruptcy, morph into Latoya in broad daylight. Well, now that something is happening, and the law is looking to cart him off, I just have to confess I'm feeling a bit excited 'bout this all.

[jjimm]

According to Uri Gellar on the Louis Theroux program about Jacko the other day, Michael Jackson is no longer talking to him, because he was the one who fixed up the interview with Martin Bashir.

[DeadlyAccurate]

CNN's latest QuickVote:

Are you shocked by the charges against Michael Jackson?

Yes 7% 13029 votes
No 93% 173980 votes

Total: 187009 votes

Where have those other 13,000 people been these last 5 years?

[PlasticVirgil]

Originally posted by PlasticVirgil


. . . .declare bankruptcy, . . . .

Ick. Nevermind, according to this he is already 240 Million in Debt. Wish ~I~ could do that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...901584,00.html

[Mac Guffin]

I have a feeling it's all going to end badly. As in, murder-suicide or something. If Jacko was cornered, do you all think he might be nuts enough to kill himself, and or his loved ones?