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Old 12-02-2003, 09:40 PM
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Naming the States, I seem to have ended up with too many. Where have I gone wrong?

There are 50 states right? Tonight, after watching friends (where ross was naming all the states) we decided to have a go. We've managed to end up with 51. So which of the following is not a state? (bear in mind I am not American, and shouldn't be strung up for making this mistake)

Alabama
Alaska
Albuquerque
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Columbia
Conneticut
Delaware
East Virginia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Illinois
Indianna
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisianna
Maine
Maryland
Massechusets
Michigan
Minesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
Nevada
New England
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pensylvania
Philadelphia
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennesee
Texas
Utah
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Witcheta
Wyoming
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:43 PM
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Philadelphia is a city in Pennsylvania.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:49 PM
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And Albuquerque and Wichita are cities too... So you're missing 2 states!
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:50 PM
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THe Following are NOT states:
Albuquerque
Columbia
New England
Philadelphia
Witcheta

Really what are they teaching kids these days? New england covers like 6 states, and Columbia is another country
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:50 PM
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Oops... I only glanced at the list when I wrote that. Wichita is a city in Kansas, Columbia is actually the District of Columbia and isn't a state. Montana is missing, Albequerque is a city in New Mexico and it's West Virgininia. All in all, I am amazed at how many you got considering how abysmal I would do trying to trying to name the (?) counties(?) in your country. Damn your good.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:51 PM
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The actual list:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:52 PM
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From memory, no less.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:53 PM
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No teasing here, some days I can't do as well and I'm a born here type citizen.

Columbia is actually District of Columbia, which isn't actually a state though it's where Washington, D.C. is located. East Virginia is actually just Virginia. New England is a region and not a state. It's comprised of a bunch of those East Coast states. Idaho is a state that isn't on your list. Albuquerque is a city in New Mexico.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:53 PM
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Columbia is not a "state"; it is the "District of Columbia", ruled directly by the US federal government. I think. Also, you left out Virginia and Vermont.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:53 PM
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List of US states
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:54 PM
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These aren't states, they are cities:

Witchita
Philadelphia
Albuquerque


New England isn't a state, but an area of the country on the eastern seaboard, north of New York. Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont are all in New England.

Columbia - I think you mean the District of Columbia, also not a state.

East Virginia is just Virginia (no East).
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:55 PM
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New Hampshire! Ha! I knew I could figure out what was missing.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:55 PM
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Albuquerque-- city in New Mexico
Columbia-- capital of South Carolina
East Virginia-- it's just Virginia
New England-- this is a region including Maine, New Hampshire, and several other northeastern states
Philadelphia-- city in Pennsylvia
Witcheta-- city in Kansas

You're missing Arkansas, New Hampshire, Vermont and Virginia
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:57 PM
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Also, the country in South America is spelt "Colombia". On the other hand, British Columbia is spelt with a "u", but it's a Canadian province.
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:58 PM
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Crap, I just saw you had those. Boy my reading skills are off tonight
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:05 PM
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I myst apoligize, On a lark I tried to name all 50 states, and I got to 30 and had to look at you list Lobsang. I totaly tanked on the DC mistake. We never refer to it as anything other then Washinton DC, or DC for shot. Thats what I get for tryong to be a smart ass. Kudos to you my british friend, as you know more about here then I could ever ho[e to know about there

Oh and so you knwo DC is between Maryland and Virgina, and the traffic sucks
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:07 PM
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Dang it, Sunspace, I was going to mention the Colombia spelling. A former acquaintance of mine who was a Spanish professor had a dilly of a story about somebody "correcting" her spelling in some paperwork that was handed out at a conference of Spanish teachers...
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:12 PM
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Alberqerque, East Viginia, New England, and Witcheta are not states either. Witchita is a city in Kansas. Alberqerque is a city in New Mexico, and East Virginia should be West Virginia. New England is a name for a group of states. I dunno which ones.

I tried myself and forgot New Jersey. hmmm...
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:17 PM
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there is a great game to test your knowledge of states and stuff at yahooligans . Just go down to 'test your knowledge'. i used to play this at work, and to get ready when my kids start studying that stuff.
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:18 PM
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Holy crap! That was fast!

Thanks guys. On looking up I see I am missing at least New Hampshire (never would have guessed that one) and Vermont (nor that one). Looking up further, to Airman Door's post I also missed Idaho, Montanna and Virginia (assumed it was two states, east and west)


Funnily enough I would do much worse naming English Counties. Especially now that my head is swimming with US states. Off the top of my head there's Lancashire, Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Greater London, Greater Manchester, Birmingham, Lancaster.

The ones in the middle I am not sure about, and I am not sure if Devon is a county, or if Cornwall is a county, or if one is inside the other etc..
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:38 PM
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But hat's off for you, Lobsang. Outstanding first run at the states. You've done better than a great many Americans, I'd wager.
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:49 PM
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Okay. Now, the capitals!


The capital of Texas is T.
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Lobsang
Holy crap! That was fast!

Thanks guys. On looking up I see I am missing at least New Hampshire (never would have guessed that one) and Vermont (nor that one). Looking up further, to Airman Door's post I also missed Idaho, Montanna and Virginia (assumed it was two states, east and west)...
There are 2 Virginias. One of them is called "West Virginia" and the other one is simply called "Virginia". They were originally one state. West Virginia split off to join the Union during the civil war and they've been two seperate states ever since.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:22 PM
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You guys forgot the other states:

Confusion
Intoxication
Denial
Arousal
Sheer Panic
Antici-

(wait for it)

pation
Disrepair


you know, the ones we really live in.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:38 PM
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What about the state of Insanity? I spend a bit of time there.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:50 PM
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What about the state of Insanity? I spend a bit of time there.
That's another that's not a state; it's just The Cliffs.
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:57 PM
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And now, the fifty provinces of Spain, <torch song trilogy>which I did completely from memory...</torch>

Álava
Albacete
Alicante
Almería
Asturias
Ávila
Badajoz
Balears
Barcelona
Burgos
Cáceres
Cádiz
Cantabria
Castellón
Ciudad Real
Córdoba
A Coruña
Cuenca
Girona
Granada
Guadalajara
Guipúzcoa
Huelva
Huesca
Jaén
León
Lleida
Lugo
Madrid
Málaga
Murcia
Navarra
Ourense
Palencia
Las Palmas
Pontevedra
La Rioja
Salamanca
Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Segovia
Sevilla
Soria
Tarragona
Teruel
Toledo
Valencia
Valladolid
Vizcaya
Zamora
Zaragoza

(checks) And I got them all right!
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Old 12-03-2003, 12:09 AM
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Alright, Lobsang, that was very impressive!

But, I just have to wonder, why Wichita? I mean, I can understand using a big city name as a state (there are a couple that are both), but Wichita?

Why, for the love of god. Please don't tell me that Wichita is considered some sort of American Cultural Mecca!
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Old 12-03-2003, 12:13 AM
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montana
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Old 12-03-2003, 12:25 AM
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Bravo, matt_mcl!

:: claps ::

I'd say something about naming the provinces and territories of Canada, but there are only 13 of them, so it's not nearly as impressive.

OTOH, for impressiveness, there's always naming the states of India, Mexico, or Brazil, and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (and I have no idea what they're called).
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:20 AM
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Hm. 51 seems right though. You know, with Canada being a new addition and all, people just forget about it...

I am, of course, JOKING!!
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:52 AM
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Tally ho! tally ho! tally ho!
Are we on our way to Nottingham?
To Brittingham, to Buckingham?
Or any hammy hamlet by the sea?
No!
And now we're on our way to Devonshire
To Lancashire to Worcestershire
The jolly old road that goes to Plymouth
Ho!
We're merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
Merrily on our way
To nowhere in particular
We're merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
Merrily on our way
Though the roads are perpendicular
We're always in a hurry
We have no time to stall
We've got to be there!


Bedfordshire
Berkshire
Buckinghamshire
Cambridgeshire
Cheshire
Cornwall
County of London
Cumbria
Derbyshire
Devon
Dorset
Durham
Essex
Gloucestershire
Hampshire
Herefordshire
Hertfordshire
Huntingdonshire
Kent
Lancashire
Leicestershire
Lincolnshire
Middlesex
Norfolk
Northamptonshire
Northumberland
Nottinghamshire
Oxfordshire
Rutland
Shropshire
Somerset
Staffordshire
Suffolk
Surrey
Sussex
Warwickshire
West Midlands
Wiltshire
Worcestershire
Yorkshire
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:01 AM
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*applause*

Okay, these lists are shorter, but for completeness' sake:

Autonomous communities of Spain:

Andalusia (Seville)
Aragon (Zaragoza)
Asturias (Oviedo)
Balearic Islands (Palma de Mallorca)
Basque Country (Vitoria-Gasteiz)
Canary Islands (Santa Cruz de Tenerife and Las Palmas)
Cantabria (Santander)
Castile-La Mancha (Toledo)
Castile-Leon (Valladolid)
Catalonia (Barcelona)
Extremadura (Mérida)
Galicia (Santiago de Compostela)
Madrid (Madrid)
Murcia (Murcia)
Navarre (Pamplona)
La Rioja (Logroño)
Valencia (Valencia)

Provinces and territories of Canada, in order of joining Confederation (just to make it more challenging):

New Brunswick
Nova Scotia
Ontario
Quebec (original four)
Manitoba
Northwest Territories
British Columbia
Prince Edward Island
Yukon
Alberta
Saskatchewan
Newfoundland and Labrador
Nunavut
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:04 AM
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Really what are they teaching kids these days? New england covers like 6 states, and Columbia is another country
And why should Lobsang, when he was at school in England, have been taught the states of a foreign country?
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:10 AM
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Damn you, Shibb, I was going to have a go at the counties!
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:21 AM
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West Dakota

[hijack]
Has anyone seen a CD of all the US state songs? I can't find one.
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:40 AM
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Yes, a good effort ShibbOleth, but I'm sorry to report that Huntingdonshire and Middlesex don't officially exist any more.

Also, if you're going to include West Midlands you'd have to add the other metropolitan counties – Avon, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Cleveland, Tyne & Wear and Humberside. Yorkshire is divided into South Yorkshire, North Yorkshire and West Yorkshire; Sussex is divided into East and West; Herefordshire and Worcestershire are combined into "Hereford and Worcester" these days.

Personally I can only manage 49 US states every time I try to list them from memory, and for some reason it's a different 49 every time.
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Lobsang
On looking up I see I am missing at least New Hampshire (never would have guessed that one) and Vermont (nor that one). Looking up further, to Airman Door's post I also missed Idaho, Montanna and Virginia (assumed it was two states, east and west)
Have another look at the list – there are two "Virginias" (Virginia and West Virginia).
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Funnily enough I would do much worse naming English Counties. Especially now that my head is swimming with US states. Off the top of my head there's Lancashire, Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Greater London, Greater Manchester, Birmingham, Lancaster.

The ones in the middle I am not sure about, and I am not sure if Devon is a county, or if Cornwall is a county, or if one is inside the other etc..
That's shocking, mate. As you're from the north west you should know that Lancaster isn't a county, it's the county town of Lancashire. Birmingham's a city too. Devon and Cornwall are next door to one another in the bottom left hand corner, although a few people would like Cornwall to be a separate country rather than just a county.
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Old 12-03-2003, 07:41 AM
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And now, something completely different... the twenty Italian regions! In Italian!

Valle d'Aosta
Piemonte
Lombardia
Veneto
Trentino-Alto Adige
Friuli-Venezia Giulia
Liguria
Emilia-Romagna
Toscana
Umbria
Marche
Lazio
Abruzzi
Molise
Campania
Puglia
Basilicata
Calabria
Sicilia
Sardegna

Well, you did put in English shires, Canadian provinces and American states, right?
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Old 12-03-2003, 07:42 AM
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I did a pub quiz on my own the other entirely because one of the questions was a map of the US and you had to name the states and get them in the right order.

In 15 minutes or so I named 45 of them and got 24 in the right place. Next best score was 7. I won enough money to make it a free night out

I did one a long time ago for the English counties and scored 3 (Cornwall, Devon and Kent)
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Old 12-03-2003, 07:52 AM
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Yes, a good effort ShibbOleth, but I'm sorry to report that Huntingdonshire and Middlesex don't officially exist any more.

Also, if you're going to include West Midlands you'd have to add the other metropolitan counties – Avon, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Cleveland, Tyne & Wear and Humberside. Yorkshire is divided into South Yorkshire, North Yorkshire and West Yorkshire; Sussex is divided into East and West; Herefordshire and Worcestershire are combined into "Hereford and Worcester" these days.
Actually, in the late '90s many of these counties were abolished or broken up. Hereford and Worcester are now separate again, Avon, Cleveland and Humberside don't exist any more, nor does Berkshire except for ceremonial purposes, and many cities became administratively separate from their counties.
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:49 AM
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don't exist any more, nor does Berkshire except for ceremonial purposes
..and rhyming slang purposes, I believe!
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:06 AM
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What about Wales, Scotland and NI - are we not part of the UK?

as far as I can remember, the last time I was in Wales the list was (they keep changing them you see):

Anglesey
Breconshire
Caernarvonshire
Cardiganshire
Camarthenshire
Denbighshire
Flintshire
Glamorgan
Merionethshire
Monmouthshire
Montgomeryshire
Pembrokeshire
Radnorshire

would struggle with Scotland and NI though (and England thinking about it)
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:42 AM
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and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (and I have no idea what they're called).
I used to know those. In Russian. I took a year of Russian during my senior year of high school. Unfortunately, that was almost ten years ago, so I've forgotten them.
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Old 12-03-2003, 09:43 AM
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"A Moment In Time," a radio program heard on NPR and produced by a professor at the University of Richmond, here in myfaircity, just covered the split between Virginia and "that other place."

The counties that now make up "that other place" were generally settled by Scotch-Irish, Welsch, and German immigrants, who, for a variety of reasons, had fewer, if any, slaves. The residents felt shortchanged by the government here in myfaircity and held a long simmering animus toward their Tidewater brothers. In 1861 (IIRC) representatives from "that other place" held a constitutional convention and elected to separate themselves from the Commonwealth. Lincoln was struck between a rock and a hard place, as the Constitution required that any new states created from old states had to have an affirmative vote of the legislature from the parent state. Knowing that the creation of WVA couldn't be done according to the tenants of the Constitution, Lincoln said "Well, VA is acting extra-Constitutionally in thining it can leave the Union, I'll act extra-Constitutionally and sign the law creating West Virginia."

And we continue to thank him to this day.
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Old 12-03-2003, 12:36 PM
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Maybe we should choose any US state the size of England or larger, and attempt to name it's counties.

Here's an off the top of my head attempt to name some/most/all the German states:

Westphalia
Hessen
Bayern
Berlin
Niedersachsen
Sachsen
Baden-Württemberg
Bremen
Hamburg
Thuringia
Brandenburg

I know there's a few missing there (there's another Saxony that I'm drawing a blank on...)
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:00 PM
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Sachsen-Anhalt.
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Old 12-03-2003, 01:31 PM
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Lobsang is such a cutie.
*swoon*
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Old 12-03-2003, 03:55 PM
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plnnr -- My wife and I visited "that other place" on vacation some years back, and heard an extra chapter to the history you gave: The non-slaveholding counties west of the Appalachian mountains economically relied on rail and road routes over the mountains. Though the residents of the counties in that area (Pendleton, Grant, Hardy, Mineral, Hampshire, Morgan, Berkeley, and Jefferson?) sympathized with the Confederacy, and had no desire to secede from Virginia, they were controlled by the Union, and Lincoln made them part of the package to ensure the new state's viability. Does that jibe with what you know?
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Old 12-03-2003, 04:10 PM
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Columbia is not a "state"; it is the "District of Columbia", ruled directly by the US federal government.
The Federal Government gave up direct rule in 1974.
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