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Old 01-31-2004, 11:45 AM
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I'm probably the last person to discover Evanescence...

...But since there's only one radio station here and it's mostly news, I don't get any exposure to new music. In fact, I intentionally got cable so I could watch videos to see what I've been missing, but apparently neither mtv or vh1 play them anymore!

But anyway. I'd heard, of course, that there was a band called Evanescence but never heard anything by them. Until my husband downloaded one of those anime videos* and the song was "Haunted" and I realized Evanescence is a really, really good band. So I bought there cd and am blown away. The singer has possibly the best voice I've ever heard in popular music.


*People make these and put them online. I have no idea what you call them. They take anime clips, or film clips from games, like Final Fantasy or whatever, edit them, and couple them with a song. Most of these people are really good, and get the tempo of the song to match the animation perfectly.
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Old 01-31-2004, 12:21 PM
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I've seen a lot of really good anime videos, so I can attest to their quality.

That said, I agree that Evanescence is pretty. darn. good.
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:01 PM
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After listening to Nightwish (a heavy metal band with an opera-style singer) for years, Evanescence doesn't do anything to me. It's like Nightwish Lite, except that they sounds alarmingly much like Linkin Park and other angsty pop-punk bands. Propably because they are a band like that, and thus comparison to a heavy metal band (or whatever metal it is, I'm not in on the different names for different styles of music) isn't quite valid.
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:08 PM
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After listening to Nightwish (a heavy metal band with an opera-style singer) for years, Evanescence doesn't do anything to me. It's like Nightwish Lite, except that they sounds alarmingly much like Linkin Park and other angsty pop-punk bands. Propably because they are a band like that, and thus comparison to a heavy metal band (or whatever metal it is, I'm not in on the different names for different styles of music) isn't quite valid.
Funny. I thought they sounded like Lacuna Coil lite.

If you don't know who Lacuna Coil is, you're really missing out.
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:20 PM
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I'm also a fan of Nightwish and Lacuna Coil, and I think Evanescence is pretty darn good. I wasn't expecting anything near as good when I bought the CD, but the tracks that haven't been made singles are fantastic.
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:23 PM
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I like Evanescence a lot. I guess I just get bummed when I hear people talk about how utterly original they are, when I could name at least three other bands that are similar yet a lot better (IMHO).
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Old 01-31-2004, 03:15 PM
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Funny. I thought they sounded like Lacuna Coil lite.

If you don't know who Lacuna Coil is, you're really missing out.
Indeed. They have more than one song, too.
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Old 01-31-2004, 03:50 PM
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Hmm I haven't heard Lacuna in a while, but weren't they gothic metal/industrial band? If so, I can't see how they cna sound like Evanessence.
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Old 02-01-2004, 06:30 AM
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I've only heard a about half a dozen Lacuna Coil songs, but *they* seem like Nightwish Lite as much as Evanescence! Any recommendations?

Of course, even though E. are basically Nightwish Lite, the fact that they're anything at all like Nightwish makes them far better than the majority of the dreck on the radio...
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Old 02-01-2004, 07:22 AM
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I really like her voice though... it was the first thing that impressed me.

Their best song is still Bring me to Life.
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Old 02-01-2004, 11:45 AM
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I've only heard a about half a dozen Lacuna Coil songs, but *they* seem like Nightwish Lite as much as Evanescence! Any recommendations?
Their latest album, Comalies, is pretty awesome. Check it out.

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Of course, even though E. are basically Nightwish Lite, the fact that they're anything at all like Nightwish makes them far better than the majority of the dreck on the radio...
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Old 02-01-2004, 04:08 PM
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Their latest album, Comalies, is pretty awesome. Check it out.
I concur. Not a bad song on that album. It's been in my CD rotation for over a year now.
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Old 02-01-2004, 04:28 PM
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The only problem I have with Evanscense is that established bands which certainly influenced Evanscense get overlooked. Not that is anything new, but I wish more people would be more proactive in what they listen to. For a majority of people they only get new music from the radio. Thus, Evanscense is popular yet Nightwish, Lacuna Coil, Rain Fell Within, Gathering, etc. get overlooked and wallow in underground obscurity. I'm happy that this type of music is getting some exposure and certainly there will be some cross-over from some of the younger fans who are more willing to search out new music. Metal Rules!
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Old 02-01-2004, 05:09 PM
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I really, really hate Evanescence. The singer has a good voice, sure, but it's an awful band. And I'd take Neko Case or Laetitia or Beth Gibbons over her anyday.
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Old 02-01-2004, 05:18 PM
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I really, really hate Evanescence. The singer has a good voice, sure, but it's an awful band. And I'd take Neko Case or Laetitia or Beth Gibbons over her anyday.
Amy Lee's voice is way better than Evanescence as a band requires, or deserves. If the band ever folds, I can see her going on to great acclaim elsewhere. She is absolutely stunningly gorgeous too, which doesn't hurt her chances of success.

And you just named two of my favorite girl singers, Neko Case and Beth Gibbons. So who is Laetitia, and would I like her if I worship the other two?
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Old 02-01-2004, 05:43 PM
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I'd take Neko Case or Laetitia or Beth Gibbons over her anyday.
Hmmm. How do you feel about Janis Ian and Margo Timmins?

I'd also like to take this opportunity to pimp Thea Gilmore at all and sundry.
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Old 02-01-2004, 06:10 PM
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Amy Lee's voice is way better than Evanescence as a band requires, or deserves.
Strangely enough, the combination of that voice with that music is the very thing that drew me to Evanescence. Had she had a "genre-typical" voice, the band likely wouldn't have gotten a second listen from me. The contrast is attention-getting. For example, in the verses of Bring Me To Life, the guitars are playing with a staccato feel, while Amy is overlaying a very smooth, legato melody. Pounding guitars, soothing vocals.
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Old 02-01-2004, 06:15 PM
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My wife and I saw Evanescence on March 4th, 2003 (the day their debut album, Fallen was realesed) at a 500 person venue in Houston called The Engine Room. The warm up bands were good, but when Evanescence hit the stage the room exploded. I knew at that moment that this would be the last time they played such a small venue.

Six months later they played a local radio stations concert series at a huge outdoor venue.

I have heard a lot of bands that have that same sound, but Amy Lee's vocals are just incredible. Eh, nothing is really original anymore.
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:32 AM
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Slight hijack.

I'm not a huge fan of this band myself, but one of my best friends seems to be totally converted. For her benefit I was wondering if fans in this thread could answer a few questions for me, so I can impress her with my Evanescence knowledge.

Basically I can vaguely remember reading somewhere that people thought they were a Christian band, but I think they denied that. So is that information correct and why would people think they were a Christian band (as opposed to some or all bandmembers being Christians) in the first place? I can't hear it in the lyrics, but like I said, I'm not mad into them so maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:45 AM
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Meh. They sound like Linkin Park with a girl singing. boring lite goth pop for 16 year old kids force fed dogshit from MTV in Deftones hoodies and big chains hanging from their waists.

I hate both of these bands, I also find Chester Bennington hilarious, but in a good way.

"WOE IS ME!!! IM SUPER RICH!! IM MARRIED!!! BUT IN THE END IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER!!!"
The E girl is attractive, i'll give her that, but original or good? not at all.

I like Converge. I'd like to see them sell out stuff or be on MTV all the time.

"totally rad gnarly dude. why you H8ing on Evanescence W00t!! etc
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:59 AM
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Paul, the 16 y/o's are listening to Justin and Brittney.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:00 AM
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Basically I can vaguely remember reading somewhere that people thought they were a Christian band, but I think they denied that. So is that information correct and why would people think they were a Christian band in the first place?
Probably because like every other shit band nowadays, they do their level best to sound exactly like Creed.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:05 AM
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Paul, the 16 y/o's are listening to Justin and Brittney.
Hardly. walk round any british town centre. kids either listen to this stuff, or R&B/garage crap, dependant on how theyre dressed to identify themselves.

I'd say 10-12 year olds are listening to Britney/Dickhead.
IMO. i'll try and find some cites to back me up.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:23 AM
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various tennage social groups

check it out. or google - UK teenage musical trends research

everyone of these tennagers will tell you that they are cooler than the others, with not a single shred of evidence to back them up other than 'because'.

Evanescance are still a demographic, as much as Timberlake or Spears. they just appeal to a slightly different audience. very slight.

meh.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:31 AM
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Thank you all very much for causing me to spendmore money. I liked Evanescence's debut album very much, and now based on the recommendations in this thread, I had to go and buy a couple of albums from Nightwish and Lacuna Coil. I swear, this board is going to bankrupt me.

And for the record, I don't listen to Spears or Timberlake.
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:05 AM
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Paul, the 16 y/o's are listening to Justin and Brittney.
Nope, Paul's right.

I work in the music section of a department store. 16 year olds are buying Evanescence, Linkin Park, 50 Cent and Eminem. 12 year olds are buying Justin, Britney, 50 Cent and Eminem. 8 year olds are buying Hilary Duff, 50 Cent and Eminem.
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:19 AM
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Basically I can vaguely remember reading somewhere that people thought they were a Christian band, but I think they denied that. So is that information correct and why would people think they were a Christian band (as opposed to some or all bandmembers being Christians) in the first place? I can't hear it in the lyrics, but like I said, I'm not mad into them so maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.
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Probably because like every other shit band nowadays, they do their level best to sound exactly like Creed.
LOL! Well, I don't think they sound like anything I've heard from Creed. However, they share a record label with Creed. Also, the guest male vocalist on "Bring Me To Life" is Paul McCoy of the band 12 Stones, which is a Christian band (and 12 Stones also just happens to be on the same record label with Creed and Evanescence).

But the main reason people thought Evanescence was a Christian band is because they presented themselves to their record label as a Christian band, and their record label promoted them as such. Their CDs were even sold in Christian music stores.

When the band's guitarist/cofounder was asked by Entertainment Weekly (I think) if the band was Christian, he apparently responded with a profanity-filled tirade denying it. In response, their record label, admirably, immediately pulled their CDs from all Christian outlets and gave unconditional refunds to every store that had stocked them. The company also issued a formal, contrite apology in which they explained that the band had led them to believe they were Christian, and so they had marketed them as Christians. The recold company expressed its embarrassment over the situation, and promised that that kind of situation would never occur again.

I unfortunately did not keep the link to the article about this.
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:44 AM
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Slight hijack.

I'm not a huge fan of this band myself, but one of my best friends seems to be totally converted. For her benefit I was wondering if fans in this thread could answer a few questions for me, so I can impress her with my Evanescence knowledge.

Basically I can vaguely remember reading somewhere that people thought they were a Christian band, but I think they denied that. So is that information correct and why would people think they were a Christian band (as opposed to some or all bandmembers being Christians) in the first place? I can't hear it in the lyrics, but like I said, I'm not mad into them so maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.
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Old 02-02-2004, 12:41 PM
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Meh. They sound like Linkin Park with a girl singing.
My thoughts exactly. What is it about this band that somehow messes with people's good music radar? My ex-GF likes the Flaming Lips, Bjork, the Broken Social Scene, the aforementioned Beth Gibbons - but this hackneyed, unoriginal crud is what gets played at the office when she's controlling the CD player.

I'll consent that she's got a nice voice, but that's about it.
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:52 PM
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Thank you all very much for causing me to spendmore money. I liked Evanescence's debut album very much, and now based on the recommendations in this thread, I had to go and buy a couple of albums from Nightwish and Lacuna Coil. I swear, this board is going to bankrupt me.
Which albums did you get? Be sure to come back to this thread (or start another one, whichever) and tell us what you think.
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Old 02-02-2004, 05:26 PM
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For those of you who have said they sound like Linkin Park (sp), have you heard more then one song? I am very much a head banger, and Fallen came out to be my second favorite album of last year. So much so that it was almost my first album of the year. The only song that sounds anything like that is Bring me to Life. There are no other "rap" style or nu-metal singing on the disk.

Honestly, when I first bought it I wondered why I was, but after a couple of spins I really liked the disk. Hopefully they will come out with a good second disk, but I'm afraid this isn't going to happen as they will probably get bullied by the record company.
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Old 02-02-2004, 06:03 PM
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Slight hijack.

Basically I can vaguely remember reading somewhere that people thought they were a Christian band, but I think they denied that. So is that information correct and why would people think they were a Christian band (as opposed to some or all bandmembers being Christians) in the first place? I can't hear it in the lyrics, but like I said, I'm not mad into them so maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.
"my God, my tourniquet
return to me salvation"

sounds pretty Christian to me.
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:10 PM
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'Evanescence are "a secular band, and as such view their music as entertainment."'

The abject shittyness of Christian Rock, explained in one sentence. Gotta love it.

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"my God, my tourniquet
return to me salvation"

sounds pretty Christian to me.
"Tell me, Jesus, are you angry?
One more sheep has just gone astray
A hardening of hearts, turning to stone
Wandering off so far from home"

Also sounds pretty Christian - but it's not from a Christian Rock band.

(Half a point for anyone who can name the artist, track and album without Googling.)
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:20 PM
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What is it about this band that somehow messes with people's good music radar?
I think it's the fact that they're enjoyed by the non-elite.

Wait... That's not what you meant, is it?

It is, however, true.

They're not a bad band. (Nor is Linkin Park for that matter. They, in fact, seem a lot more 'genuine' than a lot of the 'great' 'elite' bands who do nothing but whine about 'commercial pop' when they're not making music - which may, or may not, actually be good music - just like the 'commercial pop' they're decrying.)

Seriously. Music is music. If it speaks to your very soul, or makes you want to dance, or sing, or if it simply sounds good, it's ALL GOOD.

I like Nightwish, but, you know what? They're nothing any more special than Evanescence is. They're a band that makes good music and has a female singer with a nice voice, just like Evanescence. That's it. The fact that they haven't struck a chord with 'teenybopper' or 'mainstream' listeners doesn't validate them, and the fact that Evenscence has doesn't invalidate them.

(Sidenote, I kind of prefer Going Under to Bring Me To Life.)
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:46 PM
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I think it's the fact that they're enjoyed by the non-elite.

Wait... That's not what you meant, is it?
I guess I do come off as a bit of a snob with that statement. Apologies.

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They're not a bad band. (Nor is Linkin Park for that matter. They, in fact, seem a lot more 'genuine' than a lot of the 'great' 'elite' bands who do nothing but whine about 'commercial pop' when they're not making music - which may, or may not, actually be good music - just like the 'commercial pop' they're decrying.)
Unfortunately, I don't really see how this is any different from what I said, just from the other side of the looking glass.

Perhaps we should do a mix tape exchange, and see which one of us converts the other first.
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Old 02-02-2004, 11:06 PM
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I guess I do come off as a bit of a snob with that statement. Apologies.
Alrightie then.



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Unfortunately, I don't really see how this is any different from what I said, just from the other side of the looking glass.
I apologise. I don't think I made my point clearly. I'm not dismissing anyone's music out of hand in my comment. I'm bitching about an attitude, that a lot of non-mainstream bands (who range from great, to dismal, just like more mainstream bands) - and especially their fans - have. The attitude of automatic goodness of more obscure bands, and automatic crappiness of mainstream bands.

Keeping with my example: From what I've seen of Linkin Park in interviews and live performances, they don't present themselves as (neccessarily) better than other bands - those that made it big, or those that didn't - either in their own genre or others. They're just a bunch of guys who got lucky, and they're still really just a bunch of fanboys, making a buttload of money doing something they like to do.

But even a lot of bands who do present this attitude make good music that I enjoy. I don't let their (or their fans') attitude prevent me from enjoying their music.



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Heh. I think you might be surprised at the contents of a mix tape I put together, right now. (Despite my liking and defending both, neither Evanescance nor Linkin Park would be on it, ATM.) And how many on any mix tape you made I'm already familiar with/a fan of, most likely.
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:52 AM
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Thinking about this, who produces Evanescence and Linkin Park? The reason I think they sound so similar is down to the production to my ears, the same sort of 'overproduction' that flattens many a good bands sound down (see: Nirvanas Nevermind). Now while, i'm not convinced about either band, perhaps in the hands of a someone who records music with less commercial sensibilities (see: Steve Albini, John McIntyre), it might give these bands a bit more chance with the more discerning listener who doesnt really listen to the radio or watch MTV that much (see: paulberserker).
I gave the Bush album that Albini produced a go, even though I didnt really care for their music. result? you had to respect the dry crunch of the drum production at the very least.

Flat pop style production, or record execs putting their oars too deep in a bands music may be the case here. do Evanescence write all their own stuff? It just doesnt really leap out at me musically, and comical big budget videos dont really convince me that this music is credible neither.

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Old 02-03-2004, 09:06 AM
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46 year old fart checking in. I think Evanescence is the best new band I've heard in years - I simply love their song My immortal. I hope they can keep it up or even improve further.
I don't get the eternal comparison to Linkin' Park (whom I can listen to, but they're definitely in a different league). I see the sound more as Cranberries mixed with Tori Amos.
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Old 02-03-2004, 09:15 AM
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Which albums did you get? Be sure to come back to this thread (or start another one, whichever) and tell us what you think.
Might as well be this thread, though it has sort of drifted. I ordered the CDs online. Hopefully they'll show up by the end of the week, but since I don't have them yet I can't give much of a review. Here's a list of what I got, though. Century Child & Oceanborn from Nightwish, and Comalies & Lacuna Coil from Lacuna Coil.
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Old 02-03-2004, 10:58 AM
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Okay, based upon this thread and my love of Evanescence, I acquired some Nightwish and Lacuna Coil.

Loved Nightwish, but was somewhat surprised at the comparison to Evanescence. I'd interpret the sound as much more "vocal" than "industrial." I recommend fans to give Sarah Brightman a try, particularly La Luna and Eden. Her albums tend to be about half opera and half pop.

I'm not so impressed with Lacuna Coil, the sound seems to be just another garage band. The woman's voice is okay, the man's voice is nerve-wracking, and I have so far tuned out the music while listening during my commute. These are just first impressions, I intend to give both bands another week. My recommendation: Wild Strawberries.

As for Linkin Park, yes, I've heard more than one song. Love them, and I think Meteora is better than Hybrid Theory, and I hope they'll continue to improve. My theory -- with Linkin Park, and Natalie Imbruglia, Evanescence, and other one-hit wonders is not that their albums are bad, per se, but their hit song is completely different than the rest of their sound, so it's hard to get a follow-up hit to the same audience. I loved Imbruglia's "Smoke," but I knew the second I heard it she'd never be able to follow up "Torn" in the US. Same way I feel whenever I hear "My Immortal" on the radio. I just wince because of the jump in style it requires. I've never been disappointed when I buy an album after hearing only one song (including buying Tori Amos after hearing "Silent All These Years" in the car and changing direction to drive straight to the CD store), but I understand the perception that bands come up with one good song and then use filler on the rest of the album.

Er, wee, tangent. I think Linkin Park can best be compared to Matchbox Twenty, whom I also quite adore. You haven't faced music snobbery until you tell someone you're a fan of Matchbox Twenty.
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"Tell me, Jesus, are you angry?
One more sheep has just gone astray
A hardening of hearts, turning to stone
Wandering off so far from home"

Also sounds pretty Christian - but it's not from a Christian Rock band.

(Half a point for anyone who can name the artist, track and album without Googling.)
Of course, when lyrics are taken in context with the rest of the song, they can prove to be "Christian" or "Not Christian".

I wouldn't try to prove that King Missile is (was?) a Christian band by quoting the lyrics from "Jesus Was Way Cool". Evanescence may not be a Christian band per se, but have a strong Christian influence as evidenced in their lyrics, and past history.
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Whats the Linkin Park song that was different to the rest that made them a hit?

I've heard at least 10 of their songs, and they all follow the 'quiet/some dude rapping (or his approximation of) then 'Chester Bennington' /shouting a chorus, with lyrics that appear to have been written by a bullied twelve year old who cant get any girls to notice him.
But hey, keep kicking those 2 chord/sampled drum songs boys, they must be worth a fair bob or two by now eh?

I may check out Lacuna coil & nightwish, ive not heard them. but i'm not holding my breath.
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I'm bitching about an attitude, that a lot of non-mainstream bands (who range from great, to dismal, just like more mainstream bands) - and especially their fans - have. The attitude of automatic goodness of more obscure bands, and automatic crappiness of mainstream bands.

Keeping with my example: From what I've seen of Linkin Park in interviews and live performances, they don't present themselves as (neccessarily) better than other bands - those that made it big, or those that didn't - either in their own genre or others. They're just a bunch of guys who got lucky, and they're still really just a bunch of fanboys, making a buttload of money doing something they like to do.

But even a lot of bands who do present this attitude make good music that I enjoy. I don't let their (or their fans') attitude prevent me from enjoying their music.
I must applaud you for this post. This is something I run into all the time on a couple of the Yahoo Groups I'm on. The basic attitude there seems to be, "If it's on the radio, it sucks. Period." Has there ever been a more ignorant thought process in the history of civilization?

I don't listen to the radio all that much. Most of the stuff that gets airplay nowadays just doesn't do anything for me. But every once and a while, I'll hear something that just blows me away. For example, a few months ago I heard the song Closure by Chevelle on the radio. That song came to me exactly when I needed it. If I automatically dismissed everything on the radio just because it's on the radio, then I never would have heard that song.
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Old 02-03-2004, 06:25 PM
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I must applaud you for this post. This is something I run into all the time on a couple of the Yahoo Groups I'm on. The basic attitude there seems to be, "If it's on the radio, it sucks. Period." Has there ever been a more ignorant thought process in the history of civilization?
I wouldn't say that if it gets airplay it sucks. I will say that the number of half-decent songs that made the UK Top 20 singles chart in the last decade can be counted on my fingers.

Overhyped shit and the lowest common denominator strike again - not to mention that Westlife only got their record string of consecutive number 1 hits because their management were running around buying up thousands of copies.
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Old 02-06-2004, 04:06 PM
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Old fart checking in...

I like Linkin Park-- great pop tunes. Their music hasn't changed my life, but that's not what I'm looking for. I just like listen to music that sounds good. Yeah, they have a formula and it'll get old eventually, but it works on the 2 CDs of theirs that I have.

After reading this thread, I went to Amazon to check out Nightwish. Yikes!! Talk about songs that all sound the same. Maybe I'm missing something...

As for Evanescence, they sound pretty good to me. I haven't bought their Cd yet, but I might pick it up soon.

That "popular = bad" line does get old after awhile.
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When the band's guitarist/cofounder was asked by Entertainment Weekly (I think) if the band was Christian, he apparently responded with a profanity-filled tirade denying it.
"A myrrh record? Who wants a crappy myrrh record?!?!?"

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I thought Fallen sounded good when I first heard it, but it turned out to have an extremely short shelf-life. It sounded great when I first bought it, but a week of heavy rotation in my car stereo made me see it's many shortcomings. The inclusion of a strings section strikes me as merely pretentious, and the aforementioned lyrical debacle "my god/my tourniquet/return to me salvation" merely highlights the fine line between being edgy and being lame. They make a good effort, but ultimately Evanescence lands on the lame side of the musical fence.

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My ex-GF likes the Flaming Lips, Bjork, the Broken Social Scene, the aforementioned Beth Gibbons - but this hackneyed, unoriginal crud is what gets played at the office when she's controlling the CD player.
Broken Social Scene! Just picked up their album a few weeks ago - my new favorite band.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:20 PM
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I never had a chance to make a judgement about this band; EVERY rock station here plays the FUCK out their songs and blew them into the "Sweet Christ they're playing this song AGAIN?" zone, making me despise the sound of this woman's voice, talented it may be.

Goddamn, radio sucks.
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Old 02-07-2004, 08:56 PM
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Why does everyone hate Creed so much? Is it because they are a 'Christian' band?

I never really pay attention to what the band is about, or who they are, as long as their music sounds good. And the lead singer of Creed has a great voice. At least it doesn't sound prepubescent, like the lead singers of Blink 182, AFI, almost evey emo band in existence, etc. Same reason I like Chad Kroeger - he sounds like a man!

If I want to listen to some high-pitched male voice, I'll find a castrato*, thank you very much.

*Yes, I know there haven't been any for a century. :P
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:27 AM
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Why does everyone hate Creed so much? Is it because they are a 'Christian' band?
No, because every single song they write sounds like Pearl Jam's "Jeremy".

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If I want to listen to some high-pitched male voice, I'll find a castrato*, thank you very much.

*Yes, I know there haven't been any for a century. :P
Not quite. The last castrato died in the 1920s IIRC, and recordings of him singing do exist.
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